According to Obama everyone is risking there lives everyday because of big bad guns. I got it pensions for school children!!!
So I was flipping stations during ads today and on Limbaugh's program he refers to people who don't listen to his program as "low information voters"... LOL
I just emptied a huge mag on my copy of the 2nd amendment. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/01/16/us/obama-gun-control-proposal.html
Is this BS politics at play or am I missing something? These have no teeth. They do nothing or very little to address gun control. I'm ok with that but it looks like he is acting like he is being tough on guns when he isn't. 1. "Issue a presidential memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system." 2. "Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system." 3. "Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system." 4. "Direct the attorney general to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks." 5. "Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun." 6. "Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers." 7. "Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign." 8. "Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission)." 9. "Issue a presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations." 10. "Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement." 11. "Nominate an ATF director." 12. "Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations." 13. "Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime." 14. "Issue a presidential memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence." 15. "Direct the attorney general to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies." 16. "Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes." 17. "Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities." 18. "Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers." 19. "Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education." 20. "Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover." 21. "Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges." 22. "Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations." 23. "Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health."
Exactly. And yet still people are crying about big bad Obama and giving away all their money to gun/ammo suppliers. All of the things on the list are things I figured were already in place.
Come on Kb u know the drill with these things. The longer the list, the better the sell, and the bigger the gov't. Personally I am intrigued by the ability to ask patients about a firearm in their house. I wonder what else the "affordable" care act does not prohibit.
For all interested: yesterday (and into today) ended up being a pretty big News day: (Human Rights Abuses at Afghan Prisons, JP Morgan and Morgan Stanley settle improper foreclosure lawsuit, IMF approves bailout for Greece, Israeli Supreme Court allows Israel to remove protest tents from E-1 West Bank, 2 Police and 1 Journalist Arrested on Corruption Charges in Britain, African Union accidentally shoots up a School in Somalia killing civilians (some children), Ken Salazar's $222,000 bathroom, etc etc)
Everyone knows that Hitler, Stalin, and Mao all started by launching a national dialogue led by the Secretaries of Education and Health and Human Services. The Second Amendment remains our least threatened and best protected right.
You make a good point. It's hard enough to understand just what happend with manti Tao let alone the rest of the news, most people will just read the headline from this and think Obama is actually doing something rather than the truth and he is just blowing smoke up our asses.
You tell me. It may be that they stomp their feet at the most minor effort that they see as against their wants. Read it for yourself, do you see the teeth in it?
I intended merely to make my little snippy rhetorical point, but if you want to make me get into a real substantive discussion... Okay. You only refer to the items listed as doable under Executive Orders. The items listed in the Times article before the Executive Orders items are certainly quite substantive, such as closing the background check loopholes, the reinstatement of an assault weapons ban, and limitations on types of ammo that can be sold. By their nature executive orders cannot constitutionally be as sweeping as legislation can be, but of course legislation requires Congressional action and involvement. Your complaint about the less than sweeping nature of executive orders frankly suggests that you are not all that familiar with the constitutional issues and the limits on executive authority under our system of government. As for the NRA, there of course are plenty of things in the overall lists that I am not surprised they find quite significant.
It's a start. You can't get to sensible gun control from the Wild West overnight. The NRA isn't a lobbying group for gun owners it's a lobbying group for guns and ammo manufacturers. Follow the money not the rhetoric. There is a lot at stake for many members of Congress. Incremental moves followed by another moderate SC justice and eventually we will roll back the dumb idea that everyone is entitled to their own a personal arsenal.
Wasn't trying to "make a point" tbh, I just thought that there was a lot of relevant/important/interesting news yesterday and wanted to share with all other News junkies
