Great post. This is why I get on Sanchez. Good qb's destroy teams that blitz because they recognize the blitz and get rid of the ball instantly. It doesnt matter if their lines are good, bad or mediocre. Bad qb's (like Mark Sanchez) have no grasp of what to do when they see a blitzer, than when the blitz happens, they stand there like morons and get hammered. And guess what, when a line knows they have to block for a few seconds tops in the face of a blitz, and dont need to worry about finding everyone and blocking for 5+ seconds for a qb to have a shot, they play better too (see Pats, Colts, Packers, Saints, etc..). The fact has always been that Sanchez is a clueless loser and makes other problems worse than they appear because he cannot handle being a starting caliber NFL qb. Get Manning in here and we will all once again talk about how good the line is (even Hunter will instantly get better)...
also teams respect quarterbacks like Manning and blitz them less because they will get burned sending everyone after him, they don't respect quarterbacks like Sanchez and beg them to throw on them. If anyone is blind to see this then I feel sorry for you.
Sanchez needs to be more decisive, but he needs OC to help him here and Manning is not coming to Jets
He wouldn't take nearly as many sacks as Sanchez, but he'd still take plenty of hits. Wayne hunter, with turnstile ducasse waiting in the wings as backup, is certainly worse than what he had in his glory days in Indy. Anyhow, this is all premature speculation. Who knows whether he'll be able to come back to 60% of what he was. For all we know, the guy may never play again.
And I'm not willing to gamble the future of the Jets on his health. Didn't we endure this "bring in the washed up injured future HOF QB that his old team doesn't want/need anymore" stuff already?? Are memories that short for this fan base? Manning is old damaged goods. What do you get from him, at best? Two seasons? One? One start? Fix the other glaring issues on this team before overpaying for past performance - again. The Jets have a history of brining in over the hill superstars and it is not a good history. This team needs to get younger and faster and better. Plus the oldest QB to win a SB was 38 (Elway) and he did it behind the best rushing attack in the NFL at the time, not on his arm. Manning will be 36 next year. Only 4 QBs older than 36 have ever played in a SB. Why should the Jets reach for the geritol?
Yup... This OL is better than it's getting credit for... I bet Wayne Hunter plays with a top QB and all of a sudden people are praising him - or at least not talkingabout him much. I were the GM of an NFL team I'd look for Offensive linemen that look worse than they are due to Panzy / Skittish Qb play. It's like going after AL Pitchers for the National league.
I'm saying he might be. How did he do this year? How can you seriously want to pay $20 million a season for a 36 year old QB coming off neck surgery?
Yeah, Wayne Hunter didn't just become awful. He was good when he filled in for Big Wood last year, and has been in the NFL for a long time. Has he struggled? Sure. But so have guys like Brick and Moore, who we all know are very good, if not great in Brick's case, players. And whether Sanchez's cheerleaders want to admit it or not, the line play sucking has a lot to do with the 5 guys up front having little to no faith in his ability as a qb. They will never say anything while he is here, but they want a real qb as much as many fans do. And the AL comparison is a good example. When you know you dont have to be perfect on every play because the QB cant handle the blitz, you press, and pressing leads to mistakes. In the NL, pitchers know they have a free out (2 or 3 for most teams), when playing with a bad qb, you get no breaks.
This post takes the cake as far as over the top Sanchez bashing goes. You are seriously going to defend Hunter's play this year as a human turnstile by blaming Sanchez????? Unbelievable.
OL faith in Sanchez' ability has nothing to do with their play. OL had deficiencies. OC did not put Sanchez in proper situations to hide his weaknesses and weaknesses of O-Line Three step drops with only 5 blocking, throw in WR's sloppy route running and Mark's hesitancy in his release spells disaster. It all starts w/OC in my opinion
what the fuck?!? Moore was brought in here after Manning signed a long-term contract and before there was any idea that the Colts would be the worst team in the league and there was any chance they would be drafting Luck. are you seriously suggesting that the Jets knew before the season that Manning was going to be let go by the Colts? and at the end of the day, they will have to let him go, because no team can trade for a $28 million and if he refuses to rework the deal to be traded then he is untradable. and why would he rework it when he has a $28 million leverage on the Colts. if they draft Luck and don't want Manning, they certainly aren't going to want to pay him that amount of money. and Manning is smart enough to know not to weaken the team he is going to with a trade when he can be released and just sign a new contract with them with the same terms he would have reworked his current contract to. what about that type of scenario were the Jets so brilliant to predict when they signed Moore?
Yes there was speculation before we picked up Moore that Manning would be a FA next year as the Colts had not re-signed him when we picked up Moore. There was a very good chance Manning would not play a down this year and therefore the Colts might not resign him. Picking up Moore certainly was an opportunity to address red zone issues but the Jets also like to think ahead and the possibility of Manning being a free agent. After we signed Moore Manning eventually signed the long term deal with the $28 million dollar bonus due next March. As the Colts nose dived and the rumors started that Manning may be cut next march Moore's role with the Jets increased. Helping matters was it quickly was becoming apparent that Sanchez was not the answer and the position was going to need an upgrade. At some point Tanny and Rex may have started thinking about positioning themselves to be desirable to Peyton. We know Peyton wanted to be a Jet in 97, Eli plays close by and the opportunity of playing in NY is not only good from a marketing perspective but affords Manning the opportunity to beat Brady twice a year. Having Moore in hand allows Manning the comfort of knowing his offense can be implemented quickly. Not only ado the Jets gibve manning the best oppurtunity to win another ring but it he will be able to transition into the offense easier than any other team thanks to Moore's presence. With Sackchez on his way out and Woody iin need of positioning the Jets as the NY team Manning is a perfect fit. Not to mention Manning instantly makes every player on the Jets a better player. The Jets OL is already much better than any OL Manning has ever played with they instantly get better, the RBs get better, Keller could be a pro-bowler, the WR's become very good and the defense gets to play with a lead which will only make them better. The Jets who are already loaded instantly become SB favorites and a candidate to go undefeated. But of course that all depends if Manning is healthy. But the upside here is tremendous and Mike T. is a gambler that loves upside. I would be shocked if the Jets are not involved. The question is do the Colts want to cut him? If they want to keep him will Manning ask to be cut or force his way out. For a team with as many issues as the Colts paying $28 million for Manning is something that does not make sense. I agree its not a long term move and with Revis likely getting a new contract next offseason this will cause us some serious cap issues 3-4 years down the road.
According to his teammates, Mannings throws were more than game ready just last week. His football IQ is so high, he won't be taking nearly the shots as Sanchez does and not to mention, the refs love Manning/Brady so if anyone gets near him after a pass, it would be an automatic roughing the passer call. With Manning at the helm and a couple of small changes with the roster, this can be a super bowl.
And Sanchez "might" be a bust? Id put my money on Sanchez being a bust and never turning into a decent Qb then Manning being washed up. What information tells you Manning is washed up please tell me? Brady injured his knee which is more important to a qb then a neck and came back better then ever. Jets fans who rather have Mark freakin Sanchez starting next year then Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck are on crack and never want this team to win a superbowl. How can you seriously pay 17.5 mil to a Qb with a 79 rating and a 55% completion rate who might be missing a brain and choked down the stretch and cost us the playoffs? By the way if Sanchez is that "bust" and keeps failing1st decent coach we had since Bill Parcells is out of here.
