Phillip Rivers/Norv Turner combo?

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  1. JetBlue

    JetBlue Well-Known Member

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    Quarterbacks don't, and never have, played against one another to outplay the other. To say one outplayed the other when they are both playing against completely different opponents is such a ridiculous argument.

    Sanchez is a winner except for all of his losses, right?
     
  2. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    who said they played head to head? Mark did more for his team than Philip did for his team despite Philip having the hottest team in the league, much more talent around him and homefield advantage w/ a bye.

    winning doesn't happen by accident. years of underachieving in postseason by SD doesn't happen by accident. Rivers was the biggest reason we won that game, he made multiple critical mistakes.
     
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    Jets are probably 4-0 with Philip Rivers this year and at least one of the favorites to make it to the AFC Championship IMO
     
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    w/ this talent we are a favorite to reach the championship game w/ Rivers when he has never done that before in his career w/ top notch talent around him?(his lone title game app came after he got hurt and backup led them to GW TD).

    Geno has cost us 1 game, we have more problems than just Geno.
     
  5. Jetsfansince95

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    Last year we went 8-8 with a few breaks going our way... easily could've ended 6-10... this year we aren't getting those breaks... yet
     
  6. jcass10

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    Never said we didnt. I know you hate stats, but Phillip Rivers has turned the ball over 1 time this season. That would be hugely beneficial for us.
     
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    so if the QB has only been the issue in 1 of the 3 losses why would we be 4-0 w/ Rivers? I think we'd be better obviously having a vet w/ experience but I'm not a Rivers guy. he's a guy who compiles nice #s but you can't count on him in a big game.

    we lost a game after going up 21-3, 2 years ago Rivers lost a game after going up 24-0
     
  8. jcass10

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    We lost by 1 score in all 3 losses. Geno had turnovers in each game. Rivers has 1 in 4 games. TO Ratio is what is killing the Jets this year. Rivers would completely alleviate that.

    But its a moot point. Rivers is busy playing out of his mind and is going to give Denver a run for their money.
     
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    GB- threw game tying TD that was called back.
    Chi- 2 bad calls cost us 14 pts(7 for Chi, 7 from us) and w/ all that led us on potential game tying drive where our WR was blatantly interfered w/ on final play or we could have tied that one.

    Rivers has put up excellent #s before, he just can't win big games.
     
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    I have no doubt this was little more than media speculation but Rivers in NY would have been a cure for a lot of things.

    Doesn't matter now though, gotta go in there and shut him down.
     
  11. jcass10

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    So Rivers beating Seattle earlier in the year wasnt a big game, but he couldnt beat GB/Chicago/Detroit because he cant win big games?

    And you made my point. The Jets were super close to winning both these games. You think with a few less turnovers we wouldnt have won those games? A pick six. A interception in the red zone. A fumble on the goal line. Rivers more than likely wouldnt have done any of those, certainly not all 3. I'm a Geno supporter, but safer QB play we could be 4-0.
     
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    No that isn't a big game, week 2 are you serious? I guarantee you if he played Seattle in postseason he'd get crushed.
     
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    You said we wouldnt have won those three games with Rivers because he cant win big games.
     
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    that's not what I said at all, go back and re-read.
     
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    This post leads me to believe that in these games Rivers would have put up excellent numbers but we wouldnt have won. If that isnt what you meant so be it. My point stands. If Rivers is our QB, there is a very good chance that we are at least 3-1 right now.

    But regardless, no point into getting into a discussion over Philip Rivers vs Geno Smith. Hopefully River's has his worst game of the season next week.
     
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    Nope, he has proven he can win in the reg season and put up good #s though he has mostly played in a weak division which helps. My biggest issue w/ him is he struggles in big games. All QBs have bad games in biog games from time to time but he's been terrible.

    we could be 3-1/4-0 w/ him. would better QB play elevate those around him? maybe but it's hard to fault geno for us blowing a 21-3 lead, Rivers lost a game 2 years ago his team led 24-0.

    last week our O stunk but any time Det needed to move the ball and score they did. Our D was most responsible for last week.
     
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    Classic bump. Well done.

    Anyone who wouldn't take Rivers on this team needs emergency brain surgery.
     
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    Pure idiocy to argue rivers wouldn't make this a better team. I can't believe anyone would even entertain an argument otherwise.
     
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    Is it any value to have brain surgery if you have already had a lobotomy?
     
  20. soxxx

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    Not nothing Junc either but his team did not really help him to much in those big games either. There are plenty of QBs who werent perfect in their Super Bowl runs, heck I watched Aaron Rodgers get outplayed by Luke McCown in an NFC championship.

    If Kaeding doesnt miss those Fgs, Rivers might have a Super Bowl on his resume right now.
     

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