Emmitt was considered too slow and too small. JJ didn't actually want to draft him. He wanted Junior Seau, Cortez Kennedy or James Francis. Irvin was nearly traded away before Turner told them that he wanted to keep him and Aikman was god-awful before Turner got there. But yeah, you're right. It was all the players
NY has literally nothing to offer a good OC like Norv Turner, no QB, no impact players at all on offense, a deteriorating run game and offensive line, a slipping defense, a coach who outright insulted Norv and called him a garbage head coach. You really think this guy is going to work for Rex after what Rex said about him? These guys are all ego it won't happen.
it's a good opportunity to prove himself. If Norv can make something from this awful offense then he will be a HC in the future. Besides our WR next year will not be so bad (Holmes, Edwards, Hill, Kerley). Plus FA and the draft will no doubt be focused on the offensive side of the ball.
That fucking guy is such a clown. He's got the same source as I do: The SD Chargers beat writer: UTKevinAcee @UTKevinAcee Chances he is OC in NY: 0.1% ... Chances he's OC in SD: 0.0%
Emmitt was more the beneficiary of a great offensive line. Aikman may have struggled initially (not unlike the thousands of rookie QBs taking over terrible teams in the beginning of rebuilding mode). Irvin led the NFC his rookie year in yards per catch. He played for the awful end of the line 3-13 cowboys before the team was restructured. He then got injured the next 2 years. um, who wouldnt want Juniour Seau or Cortez Kennedy...those guys were picked before dallas even selected, so its not as if they were talked out of it. Ive never heard Irvin was almost traded but talked out of it by norv. Do you have a link to that information? norv as an OC for dallas did just fine...much like Wannestadt did just fine as the DC of that team..that doesnt mean 20 years later you want him as your OC, especially given his record as an OC and HC/OC since Dallas.
JJ did not have any faith in Aikman which is why he used a #1 pick in the Supplemental draft on Steve Walsh. Then in 1991 when Aikman was starting to play at a high level (with Norv Turner) he stuck with Steve Beurlein as his QB even though Aikman was healthy. Irvin averaged 2.3 rec/gm and 46.7 yds/gm. Those aren’t outstanding numbers. JJ had to be talked into drafting Emmitt by RB Coach Joe Brodsky. The Irvin trade is discussed in the book “Boys will be Boys” by Jeff Pearlman. Pages 98-99 “Raiders owner Al Davis called with a trade offer, and Jones and Johnson listened. There were better options out there – collegiate sppedsters waiting to be plucked…free agents…anyone. Johnson resisted, and Irvin’s twelve-game totals (20 catches, 413 yards, 5 touchdowns) dazzled nobody. Michael Irvin? Who needed Michael Irvin? Fortunately for the long-term success of the Cowboys, the answer to that question came in one four-letter word: Norv.” … In Turner’s early days, the media focused on his fantastic relationship with Aikman, a welcome departure from the strained Shula partnership. But what really set him apart – and Dallas on a new course – was his instant appreciation of Irvin. Where Johnson and Shula saw slow, Turner saw precise. Where Johnson and Shula saw injury-prone, Turner saw untapped potential. “Norv loved the way Mike used his body to catch the ball,” says Tim Daniel, a Cowboys receiver. “His body was the shield between the pigskin and defensive backs.” Turner was blown away by Irvin’s belief that he would, without fail, catch every ball thrown his way. “Other guys have better numbers and skill, and people in the league like to evaluate a player on numbers,” said Turner. “But Michael believes he is a great football player, so that’s what he makes himself.” Trade Michael Irvin? Hell no. Turner was determined to make him a star.
that is absolute nonsense. Norv Turner has proven three times that he is a poor coach, regardless of how good he is as an OC. no team is going to say, "hey, he did good as an OC again, let's see if he can coach this time despite his past performance." the NFL already knows his abilities as an OC do not translate to his abilities as a HC. talk about trying to rationalize an excuse to convince yourself why he might come here.
That's not the point at all. HE WANTS to be a HC again, most coaches strive to be one. Reviving the NYJ offense would look great years down the line on a resume for Norv.
From San Diego: Norv Turner has 10 teams interested in him, no inkling as of Saturday. X-Factor is Dallas: If Jerry Jones convinces Garrett to give up playcalling, Norv will get the job. It's a dangerous situation because without a contract extension, the clock would be ticking on Norv replacing Garrett.
I dont usually bump topics but considering its Chargers week im going to do it, I really wish the Jets had made a push for Rivers two years ago when everyone was declaring him finished as an elite QB..... Looking back it looks like there was a possibility that we could have traded Revis for Rivers, but at the time we did not have a GM in the building (tannenbaum was fired, Jets were searching). Of course we sent Revis to Tampa for a 1st rounder but man things could have been different had this ever gone down.
Rivers is not an elite QB now and never has been. he's nothing more than a #s guy, you fuys would be killing him if he was hear. complaining about how he melts in big spots and can't win big games. he won his first playoff game since 2008 last year b/c the HC wouldn't let him lose it, they took the ball out of his hands.
This team doesn't need an elite QB to win. Also, most of this fan base would love Rivers because all they care about is numbers (i.e., Geno > Sanchez because he threw for 300 yards in an L).
Man, your hate for Rivers is almost as irrational as your love of Sanchez. Mind you, this is coming from a Sanchez "apologist".
you are right I would kill for Rivers right now. I do only care about numbers. Numbers like this: 82-50 as a starter (about to be 83-50)
I see the game differently than the average fan. where those folks are wowed by meaningless fantasy #s I look at how a QB helps his team win. Rivers is not a winner, Mark Sanchez is. rookie Mark outplayed vet Rivers in the '09 div rd at SD. mark has helped 2 teams reach title games, Rivers made 1 and that happened after he left the div rd game at Indy w/ an injury and his backup led SD to GW TD.
inheriting a potential dynasty team in a weak division. you always have to look at context. he should have had multiple SB apps and maybe multiple SB wins. doesn't have either.
