I think the biggest problem with Sanchez is that he was trending upwards (although 2011 was more of a plateau. It was his best statistical season but he still had a lot of turnovers, the team didn't win as much as 2010, he played awful down the stretch when it counted most and he didn't take the step forward I think most were assuming he would considering it was his 3rd season and he now had Santonio Holmes for a full season as well as still having Jerricho Cotchery and the team added Derrick Mason) and then took a drastic step backwards in his 4th season. It was his worst season since his rookie campaign (which was pretty terrible, despite the playoff success) and this was the worst season the Jets have had under he and Rex's tenure. Junc, all of those successes you speak of seem like an eternity ago, both because the team's overall talent has declined and because Sanchez's play has also gone down. He still doesn't look like he can read a defense and he still makes a lot of mistakes that are inexcusable for a 4th year player. He doesn't even flash potential anymore. He might just be a lost cause. It happens. If he kept trending upward I could see your point, but he's just not.
You are such a hypocrite. you admit that it is hard to win in January but call Peyton Manning, who has won a Super Bowl and been to two, a choker. you can't have it both ways. Peyton Manning, a QB that has won a Super Bowl is a choker, but Sanchez, who has never gotten to one, is a clutch playoff QB? get the fuck out of here with that bullshit.
you are comparing Manning and sanchez? They should be held to the same standards? By the ay Peyton is 9-10 in postseason and 1-1 against sanchez led teams. I think 9-10 tells us it is hard to win for a guy that is supposedly the greatest. heck it took Peyton until year 6 to win his first playoff game, he was SHUT OUT in the playoffs and Makr never had half the talent around him offensively. He's led his high powered O's to 20.4 PPG in 19 playoff games, Sanchez has led his O's to 20 PPG w/o any HOFers to throw to. before you thro out the Ds, in 19 games Indy has allowed 18.7 PPG in regulation- the vaunted Jets D? 18.7 in 6 playoff games. Mark Sanchez will obviosuly never be half the player Peyton manning is but he's been a better postseason QB despite nowhere near the talent Peyton has had to work w/(plus numerous home games). 18.7
Who cares how many postseason games he's won. The only game that really matters is winning the Superbowl. Sanchez can win 50 postseason games, but if he never wins the Superbowl, does that make him a 'clutch' and 'great' player? I think not.
when the jets d gave up more than that average of 18.7 points...the jets lost, minus the one time brady got a meaningless TD with 20 seconds left in the game.
if it is tough to win in January, you can't fault Manning for only having 1 Super Bowl. it is all about winning, and Manning is a winner. that doesn't mean that to be a winner you have to win every year, you simply have to have proven you can do so consistently in conjunction with going all the way. Manning has done that, Sanchez never has. Sanchez is the choker and loser by your own standards.
can't get to a SB w/o winning in the playoffs, right? He's played 4 years and alreayd has the Jets record for playoff wins by a starting QB by 2 games. Obviously he was awful this year and it is hard for fans and the media to see past that but it's also hard to get quality QB play in Januayr and he has given us that. We just need to find a way where he gives us that Sept-Dec, that starts w/ surrounding him w/ better talent. I'm not saying annoint him the starter, he has to earn his spot back but I believe he deserves a chance to try to earn it back.
Why does he deserve another chance? Don't you think he's had roughly a year and a half worth of them? He really should have been benched before the bye week.
Sure I can, Peyton is a HOFer who many consider in the top 10 all time and maybe even top 5. You don't have to win 3-4 SBs but you have to win consistently which he has not done. almost half his playoff wins came in one postseason where he had a poor postseason overall. manning is an incredible winner in the reg season, he's mediocre in postseason. he's the opposite of his brother. Sanchez is a medicore reg season QB(poor this year) and a good postseason QB.
Holy shit...all you have to do is rewind our games and look for the ones with red zone interceptions. 99 percent of QBs would NOT make them. I believe there were around 5 or so games that we had a red zone interception in them. If you took all of them out, we end up winning all of them, I bet. But hey, once Sanchez is cut/benched for good, maybe you can cuddle him up and tell him 'it's alright, the people around you weren't good'. Bullshit. I think you care more about Sanchez than the Jets winning.
if that is the case, you can't use the "it is tough to win in January" argument to excuse Sanchez's regular season failures and exaggerate his post season success because it also excuses Manning's post season failures. beyond that, getting to two Super Bowls indicates post season success. I mean, you can't get there without winning in the playoffs, right? and Manning has as many Super Bowl appearances as Sanchez has AFCCG appearances. your own criteria continues to crumble your own arguments.
Once you have even one Super Bowl Ring you cease to be labeled a failure in January. I don't care if you've lost 6 Super Bowls, you win one and you're the man pretty much for life.
Manning has had 13 chances to get to SBs, Mark 4. Nothing has been crumbled. It's hard to win in January, an all time great like Manning being mediocre bolsters my argument.
it is hard to win in january. it is also true manning is better than sanchez. sanchez's team has performed admirably in the playoffs during their 2 year run. When a QBs highlight of a game where he went 12-23 for 100 yards 1TD and 1INT is a 3rd and 10 completion on a drive that eventually stalled to set up a punt to pin the other team deep in their own territory, that QB was not the reason for the playoff victory. sanchez was the beneficiary of a very good defense that was on a roll. when they relented in both years, the jets lost.
let's compare similar endings for the 2 QBs in postseason. In 2005 at home Peyton was handed the ball near midfield after a Jerome Bettis fumble was returned to the Indy 42 w/ 1:01 to play. The closest Peyton could get was a 46 yd FG and the K missed and they lost. In the 2010 WC game at Indy Sanchez was given the ball at the NYJ 46 w/ :45 secs to play, he set up his K for a chip shot 32 yd FG. Similar spot, different results.
It motivates me to think that even the Jets could potentially ruin the greatness of Tom Brady (ceteris paribus)
