he's been deep in the playoffs one time and the game they won to get deep he got hurt and the backup led them to GW TD. why would he guarantee we'd go deep?
I'm not saying it would be a guarantee, and you're right that he hasn't proven much in being able to take a team far. All I'm saying is that IMO he is a much better option to give us the chance to do so as opposed to anybody on our current roster or in the draft. I just hate the thought of this team we have now going to waste due to a lack of a good quarterback. He is a good quarterback, again IMO, and I think we would certainly have a chance to go far with the weapons both on offense and defense. Plus, you never know what a change of scenery and coaching staff could do for him. Maybe it makes him worse, but maybe it makes him better with the right strategies. It's no guarantee, but it would definitely make us a worthy competitor to get into the playoffs and maybe even get far. I'd like to get back into the playoffs as the rest of the fan base, and with him under center, things would have to go real bad not to do so.
there's no doubt he is better than what we have, the problem is the cost would be too high to acquire him.
Rivers isn't coming here. If he doesn't want to go to a big city like LA, he sure as hell isn't going to want to be in a big, cold football town like NY.
Well you have to pay for a franchise Qb. We don't know the price (if he is available) in terms of draft picks. Or even if Mac is at all interested. And the kind of money it would take to sign him. So it's all speculation which is what the NFL off season is all about. Chances are it's not going to happen for the Jets anyways.
the thing is I don't think he ;elevates us to a SB contender sop we'd give up a top 6 pick and have to sign him to franchise QB money when he isn't worth that price.
I agree but I'd do (and I'm not the GM) a swap of 1st rounders: our 6th for their 17th. Anyways you have to give up something to get something. That's what Idzik was accused of: not doing enough and not spending money. This would be an aggressive move that might not work but percentage wise I think would be worth the gamble.
I agree but you would have to be foolish to state that you don't think there is a possibility, no? I have never liked Rivers, but he has had some famous games. If the Jets had the chance to sign Marino in the mid to late 90s when they really needed a QB, no matter the eventual outcome of Marino's career, would you have just called him a stats QB? The Jets as they are right now are a waste of time with a rookie quarterback, we're just a wildcard team at best. And maybe Brees or Rivers just make us pretenders, but wouldn't you prefer a veteran presence behind the center over a rookie or unproven QB? I'm not asking you if you think that either of those two is elite, I'm asking if you think that there is a chance that either one of them could put us over the top the way this team is currently built. Actually take Brees out of this question. You don't like Rivers, we get it. What do you think it would take for him to win a SB?
And he also was a career detriment to the running game which hindered his ability to advance past a one time Super Bowl appearance
Junc has been repeating himself for days citing the same few and incredibly shaky points. I'm going to speculate he just doesn't like rivers so he's trying to relentlessly repeat himself out of said dislike. I personally have not liked rivers personality forever. He's just never been like able to me. But it's just way clear rivers puts this team in a great position and I'm willing to look past my personal feelings of like ability lol Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I hate Rivers and wouldn't like him if the Jets traded for him but if he put us over the top then I'd probably make my 5 year old wear a bolo tie to school every day
he definitely did hinder the run game but he didn't run the team, Shula needed to find one to take some pressure off him and he never could. I do not like Rivers as a QB,. I want a QB that will step up in big games not step back. it's not his personality or anything like that, I can deal w/ any personality if they are getting the job done in big spots. I would not want to give up a ton of picks and destroy our cap to bring in an older fantasy QB that has never been able to get the job done in a big spot for a much more talented team. All I want to do is win, I don't think Rivers would do that for us but if we made the move I'd be rooting for him every snap. I hated the Favre move but wanted him to be great and lead us a long way. it turned out I was right but I wanted nothing more than to be wrong and if we get Rivers(not happening but if...) I would hope beyond hope that I am wrong.
Nick Novak wasn't the K but missed kicks happen. our K missed a 20 something yarder in the 2010 div rd at NE- did it stop Mark and the O from scoring? No, they put up 28 pts on NE.
This is still a shaky argument even days later. Each game has a dynamic and the kicker not converting drives into points is part of it. Depending on the situation it can be overcome and sometimes not. Is Jim Kelly not good bc his kicker shanked a game winning Super Bowl field goal? By your logic the fact that Kelly didn't put up enuf points to make the kicker useless makes him not a great quarterback and kelly should have eliminated to kicker from having an impact. That's just not how the game of football works. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
sometimes you have to overcome. where did I say Jim Kelly wasn't good? he led his team to 4 SBs, he led his O to 19 pts in that SB loss where his O had the ball for 20 minutes. One has nothing to do w/ the other. he was horrible that day as was his kicker, had he been better he could have overcome the K.
Right now the SD Gm is backtracking and saying he wants Rivers to be a Charger for life. But still won't deny that trading him is an option. Anyways it would probably be a draft day deal if in fact they covet Mariota. So if Mac is interested it would depend on several factors and how the draft plays out. I'm sure he would map out the groundwork with the Chargers just in case things fall the Jets way. There is no way in ten minutes you can make a trade like that without previous discussion. River's agent would of course be a part of that conversation.
Sure it does by your dismissal of kicker when it comes to qb analysis. You have to be consistent. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
