Phil Simms: If Geno Smith were in this draft class, he'd be the Number 1 QB

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  1. Jersey Joe 67

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    Geno's the man
     
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    The Bills clearly saw something in EJ, not sure what but they wanted him as the QB of the team. My belief is that if you truly want that QB, you draft him immediately. Look at Wilson, the Seahawks clearly did not have that good of a read on him. If they did they would have never let him get past the 1st round. The Bills clearly believed they saw something and thats why they didnt want to risk EJ going past the 1st round.

    The Jets clearly did not see Geno as a must-have QB. If he was then they would have drafted him in the 1st round, I dont think you can let a QB drop if you truly believe in him.
     
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    This is clearly true. The Jets had two 1st round picks and let Geno get by both of them. They then lucked into having him still available on the 39 and they took the value pick there.

    This is just a guess, because we won't find out the Jets overall board from last year, but I think the Jets probably had Geno in the 18 to 22 range on their board. The consensus before the draft was that Geno was about the 20th best prospect overall and I'd be surprised if the Jets were off that consensus by more than a couple of picks.
     
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    Well I dont think you can risk letting a Qb drop if you truly believe they are a franchise QB.
     
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    Absolutely I agree. Although, the Bills have a history for reaching for players
     
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    If the Seahawks knew that Russell Wilson was going to be a franchise QB they dont let him drop. Finding a franchise QB is not easy, most teams don't have one. Allowing a QB to drop is so risky because all it takes is ONE team to take him before you do and you are out.
     
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    The Bills saw something in EJ, it does not mean they are right though. Vikings saw something in Christian Ponder, how has that worked out? If the Patriots knew that Brady was going to be who he is, they dont let him get pass the 1st round...a QB you take if you fully believe in. If you dont fully believe then you dont take him. The Seahawks didnt fully believe in Wilson, the Patriots didnt fully believe in Brady, the Jets didnt fully believe in Smith. The Bills BELIEVED in EJ and thats why they didnt risk letting him drop.
     
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  8. Not calling you out or anything but I don't remember ever reading that. That also directly conflicts w/ the reports that the jets contemplated Geno at #13 before selecting Richardson.

    Time will tell but I thought Geno was far & away the best QB prospect last year. EJ may have had superior measurables & was bit more mature but he was a limited player in college despite a ridiculous supporting cast. He stands tall in the pocket,can escape pressure & has a quick release but really only shows confidence w/ 2-3 different throws.

    Not big on conspiracies but I blame the media for Geno falling. It pretty much happens every single draft class nowadays. There is so much over analysis & hype for the weeks leading up to the event that the networks can make or break you. Being the consensus #1 pick or QB in December is almost a death sentence. The longer you're #1 on CBS sports line or w/ Mel Kiper, the more you expose yourself to scrutiny. Now in the end..it shouldn't matter what the talking heads think..but unfortunately it does. Hell look at Bridgewater & Clowney! It's especially bad w/ QBs. It doesn't matter if the #1 guy is light years ahead of the rest of the class..they STILL will try to handpick a challenger no matter how inferior just to spike debate of their darling position.In some cases they end up doing the opposite. They hype underqualified Qbs b/c they think QB talk sells...and the kid ends up getting over drafted.

    Physically, Geno would be the #1 or 2 QB in this class. Overall..I'd rank him just behind Bridgewater.
     
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    I don't agree with Simms here. I would have him at around #2 or #3. Granted, last year wasn't he considered #1 for a couple weeks? It's hard to see exactly where who is going to end up and just because a QB was picked in the top 10 doesn't mean they were a top 10 pick and etc. But yeah, overall I think Geno would be #2 or #3. The hard part, of course, is separating what I just watched one year of from his college hype heading into the draft and his college play.
     
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    Only QB I would take over Geno in this draft is, Bridgewater.
     
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    Geno was considered a top 10 pick and number one rated QB even on draft day. Leave it to the Buffalo Bills.
     
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    It is amazing to me that people here are actually trying to act like that isn't an obvious 100% trolling statement
     
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    Absolute nonsense you continue to make up, shrouded in a "guess".

    If the QB strapped Jets had a potential franchise QB sitting there at even 22 on their board they would have traded up with someone. Any one. Everyone.

    To 23. Or 24. Or 25. Or 26. Or 27. Or 28. Or 29. Or 30. Or 31. Or 32. Or 33. Or 34. Or 35. Or 36. Or 37. Or 38.

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  14. Dom

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    didn't the jets say they got 3 of their top 4 players or was that just 2 out of their top 4?
     
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    I think they say something like that every year don't they?
     
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    i don't believe they do say that every year actually, why would you lie about that?
     
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    With all the holes Idzik had to fill last year and not being able to utilize free agency the way he would've liked due to cap space i doubt trading up was even an option in idzik's mind last draft. Just MHO, I could be totally off base.
     
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    this is a silly statement. eventually there becomes a point where it's apparent geno won't get selected in the first round. once you get towards the 20s, no one needs a QB. why would you trade up for a player that's going to keep falling anyways?
     
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    For once I actually agree with Jstokes. Like I said if Geno was a must have they dont let him slip. Hell even going into day 2 we had rumors that they would trade up to the Eagles spot. If you truly believe you have found a franchise QB you get him at nearly all costs. If the Jets were convinced, they would have traded up on day 2. Clearly they were not sold, thats why they didnt take him in the 1st round and thats why they didnt trade up in the 2nd round.

    Yes it worked out for us, but you dont let a QB you are completely sold on drop that much. You take him when you have the opportunity because all it takes is one other team to draft him.
     
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    And saying that the Jets were not sold on Geno is not something that should harm his status. Id say 90% of the QBs drafted teams are not sold on, because if they were, they would be taken with the first pick available, if not trading up.
     

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