Phil Hughes Injury Update

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  1. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    He wouldn't have taken him out no matter what. You don't pull a pitcher who is throwing a no hitter. Not unless your life insurance policy is up to date anyway. Or if he asks out.
     
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    I think he would have pulled him if he didn't get through that inning and the 8th w/ low pitch totals. In 1996 he pulled Cone when he had a no hitter as he was on a strict pitch count coming back from the aneurysm.
     
  3. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    That was different because of the injury Cone had. A no hitter could be a once in a lifetime event. He even said after the game that everybody on the bench could sense he was going to do it. That meant he was in until he gave up a hit or finished the game.
     
  4. JoeJet

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    Cashman is supposed to meet with Hughes, probably already has by this point, to see if the trainer changed any of his exercise routine since being recalled.
     
  5. nyjunc

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    if he was around his pitch count then he would have stayed but if he labored a bit I think he would have and should have removed him.
     
  6. Don

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    That's interesting. Sounds like somebody is being set up for the kill there.
     
  7. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    I think he would have been left in until 120-125. If it got beyond that then he would have had to come out but it didn't look like it would ever get that high anyway. At some point Torre would have probably asked him and let him make the decision. He has no history of arm trouble so it may just have meant an extra day of rest but I really doubt Torre would have made the decision to deprive him of a no hitter just because of a pitch count.
     
  8. davecrazy

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    It sucks that he got hurt, because as a Yankee hater its no fun to make fun of injuries.
     
  9. AlioTheFool

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    Yeah, I mean, the kid left the game on what, his 87th pitch? He wasn't coming out until the no-no was no more, or the last pitch of the game was thrown.

    Even Joe wouldn't have micromanaged away that one.

    This just f***ing sucks. :mad:
     
  10. AlioTheFool

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    Thanks for the classiness Mets fans. I peeked into one of your threads yesterday, and saw you guys are having some injury problems too.

    This sucks big balls. The two NY teams, both with legit contention chances coming into the year, are both watching players drop due to injury. At least you guys still look pretty strong, and Wright finally broke out last night.
     
  11. AlioTheFool

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    If this ass changed his routine, not only should he be fired, but he should also be executed. This douchebag has single-handedly ruined the first month or two of the season for this team.
     
  12. rillo

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    Man this sucks....
     
  13. EcKo151

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    How much worse can the luck go for starters?
     
  14. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Pettitte could break his arm?
     
  15. EcKo151

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    Yup, that would make it worse.:eek:hmy:
     
  16. AlioTheFool

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    Dude, not a good thing to say...


    (I know you aren't wishing for it, or anything, but at this point, we have to do everything we can to prevent a jinx.)
     
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    Consider it done!

    ARLINGTON - The Yankees' rash of injuries appear to have finally cost someone their job, the Daily News learned today.

    But it isn't Joe Torre or Brian Cashman.

    Marty Miller, the team's director of performance enhancement, has apparently taken the fall for the multitude of injuries that have beleaguered the Yankees during the first five weeks of the season.

    According to a source, Miller told some of the players that he had been relieved of his duties.

    Miller had been under scrutiny since the second week of the season, as several of the Yankees' top players had gone down with various muscle pulls and strains, leaving the pitching staff depleted for much of the year.

    Last month, one player, speaking on the condition of anonymity to the Daily News, called Miller's pregame stretching program "inadequate," saying that many players have taken to doing their own programs instead.

    Bobby Abreu, Chien-Ming Wang and Andy Pettitte each suffered injuries during spring training, but it wasn't until Johnny Damon, Hideki Matsui and Mike Mussina went down after the start of the season that eyebrows began to raise.

    After Mussina strained his hamstring on April 11, Cashman threw his full support behind Miller and Cavalea, saying, "None of these injuries have anything to do with this new program."

    But after watching Phil Hughes limp off the mound Tuesday night with a hamstring injury - the fourth hammy problem for a Yankee this season - Cashman expressed some concern for the team's injury bug.

    "You get concerned about it, no doubt about it," Cashman said. "You try to figure out if there's any connection.

    "Some of them are explainable more so than others. Obviously, we have to look into everything. I can't tell you it's coming from the conditioning program, but you have to be objective and look at every aspect."

    Apparently, the team ultimately decided that Miller was part of the problem.

    Howard Rubenstein, the publicist for George Steinbrenner, referred all questions about Miller's status to Cashman. The GM didn't return a phone call, but is expected to address the subject at the ballpark later in the day.
     
  18. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    6-8 weeks. see you in August,Phil.
    Think about ti though,if the pitchers we went into the season with were healthy,we weren;t going to bring him up til then anyway. Atleast this was not an arm injury. We have Moose coming back Thursday,Wang broke a nail,but he won't be gone long. Hopefully Igawa is coming around and we have Pettite. I would just hate for this to be an excuse. Phil was great last night,but the Bats came alive and got us runs. We SHOULD be fine. And we'll have a healthy Phil back in August to kick some ass.
     
  19. AlioTheFool

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    Before you get hyped on our bats last night, keep in mind, Texas has the worst rotation in the majors so far. (Yes, worse than ours!) They also aren't hitting the ball well.

    We played a sub-par team, and we still need to play better when we meet with real competition.
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    I'm glad this guy got canned. Come on, at some point, you really do need to look at the common denominator.
     
  20. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    oh,i agree. I am just hoping it continues. Our lineup should be more than enough to bail us out of this jam is what i mean.
     

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