I understand what you're saying, but just because we've failed in the past with rookie head coaches, it doesn't necessarily mean we'll fail again. It's also possible that Cowher doesn't meet expectations as a Super Bowl winning coach going to another team, like Gruden, Holmgren, and Vermeil. You've also seen Super Bowl winning coaches really stink after winning too, like Billick and Shanahan. It's a risk either way. I'd rather take the rookie if it means ousting Tannenbaum.
Another great response: This is the biggest joke of an article I have ever seen. “Johnson chose Tannenbaum, a lawyer who cozied up to Bill Parcells and became a salary-cap wizard and scratched the right backs and kissed the right asses and climbed over guys like Terry Bradway until Tannenbaum occupied a position where he could squander millions on overhyped veterans and suffer no consequences when they failed to succeed.” In case you didn’t notice, Tannenbaum spent two years of hardly spending anything in free agency and built from within the draft. 2006, the Jets biggest signings were Kimo von Oelhoffen and Andre Dyson. In 2007, the biggest signing was Kenyon Coleman. On the flip side, they built through the draft by taking D’Brickashaw Ferguson, Nick Mangold, Leon Washington, Brad Smith, Darrelle Revis, David Harris and Chansi Stuckey. All of whom have been key parts of this team over the course of the past 3 years. After a 4-12 season, show me a Jets fan that complained when they went out and outbid Bill Parcells of the Miami Dolphins for the services to Calvin Pace. Show me a Jets fan that complained about signing on a Pro Bowl left guard to replace the revolving door that the Jets had there in 2007. Get real. Jets fans had high hopes for this team. And this offseason’s top acquisitions of Kris Jenkins, Damien Woody, Calvin Pace and Alan Faneca were hardly the cause of this team’s failure. The only true argument here would be acquiring Brett Favre. I do not see how you can actually sit there with a straight face and hold Mike Tannenbaum accountable for this collapse when it is the players who play the game or the coach who lacks the motivational skills to keep these players going deep into the season. “Tannenbaum signed Calvin Pace.” Calvin Pace was a key to the Jets run stopping success that ranked seventh in the NFL and was a key to the Jets pass rushing attack that was also seventh in the NFL with 41 sacks. “Tannenbaum signed Damien Woody.” The Jets hadn’t had a solid right tackle since Terry Bradway let Kareem McKenzie walk away to free agency. This is the first year where they finally had stability at the position. Woody was hardly a problem for this team. “Tannenbaum drafted Vernon Gholston.” A junior defensive end in college, forgoing his final season to head to the NFL. You knew that Gholston was going to be a project. Why is this a shock? “Tannenbaum traded for Brett Favre.” The majority of Jets fans loved this trade because they were sick of Chad Pennington tossing dink and dunks down the field. Hey, it may look bad now, but it was clear Pennington wore out his welcome here. When you get cheered for getting injured on the field like Jets fans did to Pennington last season, it was clear his time was up. Fans clearly were not impressed with Kellen Clemens work behind center either. The majority of Jets fans knew what they were getting in Favre. A gunslinger. They knew he was going to have his moments and he was going to toss his fair amount of interceptions. But to peg this season entirely on Favre is a joke. Tannenbaum traded away John Abraham. Yes, traded away John Abraham, a player who was constantly injured with this team. A player who was clearly unhappy with his contract…and the Jets didn’t want to fork over the money to keep him. Funny how this is brought up now since he had 16.5 sacks this year, right? I can hardly doubt any Jets fan is complaining about this because they know they got a Pro Bowl center in Nick Mangold out of it. At least do a little research before you shoot down a past trade and see what the Jets got out of it.
While much of what you say is true, trading Abraham was a mistake, trading for Favre was a mistake, letting Pennington go for nothing was a mistake, and selecting Gholston was a mistake. And this is not 20/20 for me. If you look back at my posts I said all these things at the time they occurred. The Jets didn't have a pass rusher for years prior to Abraham, and they haven't had one since. If Favre wasn't nearing the end, the Packers don't let him go. Pennington would have been a fine short-term solution if Ratliff didn't work out (Clemens is clearly not the answer). And I'm sorry, you don't use the #6 pick in the draft and pay their exhorbitant salary, if they're going to be a project. You draft projects in later rounds, not at the #6 slot.
Yes, I've always been one of Abraham's biggest supporters. But I mean, at least we got a very good center out of him. It wasn't a terrible deal or anything. A guy who could man center for a decade, I'll take that.
Cowher has never ever built a football team. He has coached the players his GM given him and done well with it... But do the Jets want experiment yet again with an unknown?
The Jets can have The Chin if they get rid of Tranny or put him in a different position and Woody won't do it? I don't get it. Woody must be happy with being the Giants little bitch.
Yes, I like Mangold, but the Jets could still have had Mawae and a pass rush. Anyway gotta head out. Thanks for the civil discussion. It's been a pleasure with so much animosity on the board. :wink:
If the Jets get serious (or desperate) enough, they can manipulate Tanny's title or responsibilities. I think he would still be an asset of some sort in working the salary cap & contracts. And if then inquiries come in from other teams, the Jets can withhold permission for him to interview if it isn't say an NFC team
