This is where your cred takes a nosedive. if you remove "business sense" from the equation....you end up with the Oakland Raiders.
It doesn't take a fabulous mind like mine to see that no team that isn't run by chimpanzees would give Leon 4-5 million at this point.
Good lord, I know- I said it is not good business, just my personal feelings. Buddy, I get it. It's not as hard as you like to think it is. Thanks for your support though.
Does anyone else find it funny that we might turn Herm Edwards into 4 years of Leon and a decent 2nd rounder of the deepest draft in years? I love Leon, but a lot of backs will look good playing behind our Oline. Coming off a major injury, knowing backs have 5-6 good years in there prime. I'd make the deal.
I know- My personal feelings are that I think Leon will be the same player who was offered that deal last year. Anyone else on your "friends" list want to jump in- Is this that big a deal that Leon is one of my favorite Jets and thinks he deserves a big pay day. Especially when schmucks like VG have made more in one year then he did his whole career. I'll stop, I get it. What happens when he plays great, does he get his 4.5 million contract offered again?
Reported that Leon washington talked to the 49ers today. And sleeper alert ! Bleacher report reporting that the Jets might be trading for Vick ! lolol
That Vick crap is going around the twitter world too- Many believe that bleacher is the official NFL news site and take the bait.
I'm not going to jump on the bashing here, but SanchizePrime, you need to see this from a risk aversion standpoint. In that way, it's not just win-win. It's win-win-win. We give Leon a 2nd rounder and the market will look at him. He may get an offer. If it's reasonable, we match. If it isn't, we get a 2nd in a deep draft and know that we wouldn't have signed him to his demands next year and would have lost him for nothing. If he doesn't get an offer, we gain leverage from the fact that no one valued him at that tender. We can then sign him to a reasonable deal. If we had tendered him at a first, the market would be scared off, and Keels would have used that to insist on his client's higher value. We would have had to overpay or lose him for nothing. NOBODY is looking at high tendered player right now but Brandon Marshall, whose production speaks for itself. It was the BEST move for the team AND for Leon to tender him at a 2nd. Let's not forget, he had a chance at a reasonable deal and turned it down last season. HE needs to see how the market values him, and he's not going to honestly get that with a high tender and an injury.
I know it makes the most sense for the team, basically I just feel bad for him. He had that offer on the table and now he's no where near that offer for the same team. Understandably so after a horrific injury, but it tugs at my heart strings. He didn't bitch and moan during camp and was not a distraction at all even though he was making $550,000, barely over the league minimum. When I put the numbers out, I suppose I don't feel that bad, lol 2 million is a shit load no matter how you look at it.
Most of us feel bad for him. That's why we hate his agent. He got fucked because he listened to bad advice. I'm a huge Leon Washington fan. He's the most explosive weapon this team has had in a very long time, and he has always come off as a humble team player to me. But it doesn't change the fact that professional football is a business, and these debates on TGG make more sense when they are rooted in reality.
Yeah I know, I truly feel bad for the dude. I would just really hate to see him go, but you all are correct in the stance the Jets are taking. I honestly believe though that he will be back to his old self. A guy like him deserves the money, unlike most of the other schmucks in the league.
Im reading from espn 1320 (sacramento) that leon talked to a member of the 49ers coaching staff (theyre assuming it was rb coach Jimmy Raye) but that washingtons agent has not yet talked to the 49ers. And that teams are going to wait until as close to the draft as possible before deciding on Leon or not, so that he has as much time as possible to heal before they check him out do a physical and all that crap.
Well Thomas Jones just signed with the Chiefs for two years. I can't create threads (which is stupid) but I figured this would be the best place to post.
Yes, it's not what his value was to other teams it's what his value was to us. It's an uncapped year, they are fleecing us for PSLs, they should have kept him.
