PFF 2024 Mock Draft Simulator

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  1. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    You're welcome.
     
  2. Zach

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    Well - I took a gamble. Washington was throwing a boatload of picks this year (36/40/44) plus 1st and 4th next year. Regardless of how good Kingsley is, I wasn't going to miss out on this kind of great train robbery.

    So - Kingsley was taken two spots above where I was, so I had to settle with Jordan Morgan. Other than that - Well. I guess I can say I am at least half satisfied. (2 1st next year. And Washington will suck. Mark my words.)

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    36. Jordan Morgan OT Arizona

    40. Christian Haynes OG UConn

    67. Sedrick Van Pran-Granger OC Georgia

    72. Beau Braden S Maryland

    101. Braden Fiske DT Florida State

    103. Braelon Allen RB Wisconsin

    112. Michael Pratt QB Tulane

    114. Luke McCaffrey WR Rice

    181. Hunter Nourzad OC Penn State

    187. Tanner McLachlan TE Arizona

    253. Sam Hartman QB Notre Dame

    254. Gabriel Murphy EDGE UCLA

    257. Tip Reiman TE Illinois

    2025 WAS 1st

    2025 WAS 4th
     
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    Picking the Bears is wild with how many great 2025 picks you can get just trading down out of #1 overall. I did one where I still had 5 picks in the top 100, and ended up with 5 1sts and 3 2nds in 25.

    Sent from my genius mind.
     
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    ROFLMAO! That's crazy!
     
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    NFL Draft Buzz Simulator, No Trades:

    10. O. Fashanu T Penn State
    72. J. Polk WR Washington
    112. J. Wilson WR Fla. State
    114. C. Jones T Texas
    187. T. Bortolini C Wisconsin
    253. M. J. Devonshire CB Pitt.
    254. J. Hutchings DT Texas Tech
    256. D. Clark WR UTSA
     
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    15. Taliese Fuaga OT Oregon State

    46. Cooper Beebe OG Kansas State

    72. Xavier Legette WR South Carolina

    110. Tanor Bortolini OC Wisconsin

    112. Calen Bullock S USC
     
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    This was a nightmare draft. Both Alt and Fashanu went in the top 5, and Fuaga went #7. The only trade down offer was to move down to #23, which would have meant that the Jets probably would have missed on a potential starting plug and play starting RT except for Latham (and Alabama OL usually don't work out in the NFL) or Mims (and he's a project). Some people think Barton could play either OT position, so I suppose that I could have accepted the trade down offer and then taken Barton, but his 32 7/8" arms concern me as an OT. I think he will be a very good OG or C, but I'm much less confident in him as an OT. Odunze was still there, as was Bowers, and Jayden Daniels. Adding Odunze would be great, but then who is going to play RT? I opted to roll the dice with Latham. Even all the OGs and other WRs I like were gone by the 4th round. I sure hope the Jets' draft doesn't wind up like this!

    10. JC Latham OT Alabama

    72. Xavier Legette WR South Carolina

    111. Tanor Bortolini OC Wisconsin

    112. Tyler Davis DT Clemson
     
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    These days I trade out of 1st round by default:


    34.Jordan Morgan OT Arizona
    46.Graham Barton OG Duke
    56.Byron Murphy II DT Texas
    68.Sedrick Van Pran-Granger OC Georgia
    116.Blake Fisher OT Notre Dame
    184.Jaheim Bell TE Florida State
    190.Josh Proctor S Ohio State
    218.Charles Turner OC LSU
    256.Sam Hartman QB Notre Dame

    2025 DAL 2nd
    2025 NE 2nd

    2x 2nd next year. That's pretty juicy, no?
     
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    //

    It's interesting that Barton is generally looked upon as a Center/Guard by draft prognosticators due to his 32 7/8 inch arms. But Jordan Morgan, who also measured with 32 7/8 inch arms, is still mostly looked upon as a Tackle. I was very high on Morgan before the detail about his arm length was disclosed. The fact seems to be that tackles with less that 33 inch arms generally do not have good NFL careers these days.

    Draft analysts who do a deep dive on Morgan point out that his lack of length (and they mean arm/wingspan length since his height is 6'4 7/8") leaves him at a disadvantage against some rushers.

    For example, "Lack of length allows defenders to disengage from run blocks. . . . His size can show up in pass protection as well. Morgan simply doesn't have the length that other premier tackle prospects possess. He needs to speed up his dropbacks and cover more ground in his initial pass set. His footwork is sound but Morgan doesn't have the frame to make up for missteps." 2024 NFL Draft Scouting Report: Arizona OT Jordan Morgan - Steelers Depot

    It strikes me that, despite his best efforts, AVT (with 32 1/8" arms) has similar problems when the coaches stick him out at tackle. I believe that his short arms have contributed to his two major, season-ending injuries while playing tackle.
     
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    The only 2 players that I know that much about and like are Barton and Van Pran-Granger. Morgan could be a good LT, I just don't know much about him or his play. In a normal draft, acquiring 2 - 2nd round picks for the following season would be awesome, but it wouldn't help the Jets this season. I truly couldn't care less about future draft picks this year. The Jets need them now. Of course if they get some picks for next year, I won't complain, but I'd rather they get a 2nd round pick this year.
     
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    In general, I agree. I don't like or want OTs with shorter arms, but there are 2-3 in the NFL with arms that short who are very good. It's late and I'm tired and I can't think of their names at the moment, but it would be risky. I hadn't done any research into Morgan, so didn't realize that his arms were that short. I guess that's why he's seen as a 2nd round pick rather than a 1st round pick.
     
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    26. Graham Barton OG Duke

    46. Christian Haynes OG UConn

    57. Kamren Kinchens S Miami (FL)

    72. Johnny Wilson WR Florida State

    112. DeWayne Carter DT Duke

    184. Dylan McMahon OG NC State

    218. Kingsley Eguakun OC Florida

    2025 TB 1st
     
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    27. Jordan Morgan OT Arizona

    50. Malachi Corley WR Western Kentucky

    66. Sedrick Van Pran-Granger OC Georgia

    72. Devontez Walker WR North Carolina

    76. Kris Jenkins DT Michigan

    110. Jaden Hicks S Washington State

    112. McKinnley Jackson DT Texas A&M

    146. Garret Greenfield OT South Dakota State

    218. Kingsley Eguakun OC Florida

    256. Sam Hartman QB Notre Dame

    257. Cam Little K Arkansas
     
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    10. Taliese Fuaga OT Oregon State

    72. Xavier Legette WR South Carolina

    110. Kiran Amegadjie OT Yale

    112. DeWayne Carter DT Duke

    184. Dylan McMahon OG NC State

    218. A.J. Barner TE Michigan

    256. Sam Hartman QB Notre Dame

    257. Cam Little K Arkansas
     
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    @NCJetsfan // On a second thought, short-armed LTs are indeed something to avoid.

    38. Kingsley Suamataia OT BYU
    52. Sedrick Van Pran-Granger OC Georgia
    83. Jalen McMillan WR Washington
    84. Edgerrin Cooper LB Texas A&M
    87. Marshawn Kneeland EDGE Western Michigan
    116. Maason Smith DT LSU
    119. Dadrion Taylor-Demerson S Texas Tech
    120. Michael Pratt QB Tulane
    150. Theo Johnson TE Penn State
    194. Jarvis Brownlee CB Louisville
    256. Daijun Edwards RB Georgia

    2025 TEN 1st
    2025 SF 2nd
    2025 DAL 3rd

    1. I did reach Van Pran-Granger, but if the past few picks are any indication, TB always snatches him up at 57.
    2. 3 trade downs, with a boatload of picks this year, and 1/2/3 each next year.
    3. I decided to bolster the edge and LB department while at it. (Most likely because those I was targetting were either gone or a bit far below.)
    4. I think I am pretty content with picks down to 120.
     
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    Most good starting tackles in the NFL have 34 inch plus arm length. Exceptionally athletic tackles with 33 inch arms can have great careers. I haven’t been able to find any good starting tackles with less than 33 inch arms.

    This seems to indicate that both Barton and Morgan will be converted to center/guard, like Skoronski was last year. For the Jets, it also suggests that shoe horning AVT into a tackle spot is taking a big risk for another injury.
     
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    This draft, along with signing a younger RT in FA could conceivably fix our OL for the forseeable future. Fautanu at LT or if the Jets sign Tyron Smith, at RT; AVT at LG, Tippman at C, Morgan at RG. Bortolini would be the backup C, and Amegadjie would be the swing OT. Or if the Jets had signed both an LT and a RT, Fautanu could back up LT and Amegadjie back up RT. In the 6th or 7th round they could draft a run-stuffing DT and a developmental S.

    20. Troy Fautanu OT Washington

    51. Jordan Morgan OT Arizona (move him to OG)

    72. Xavier Legette WR South Carolina

    110. Kiran Amegadjie OT Yale

    112. Tanor Bortolini OC Wisconsin

    119. Jared Wiley TE TCU
     
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    It seems to me that these are the kinds of moves we need to keep Rodgers in one piece!
     
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    In this draft the best draft trade down offer I got was from the Rams. All of the top OT prospects were gone except for Mims and Guyton. By #52 all of the top OGs were gone. Similarly, by #72 all of the top WRs were gone. I felt fortunate to get Wilson, McCormick and Bortolini.

    19. Amarius Mims OT Georgia

    52. Patrick Paul OT Houston

    72. Johnny Wilson WR Florida State

    111. Mason McCormick OG South Dakota State

    113. Tanor Bortolini OC Wisconsin
     
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    If the NFL draft goes like this, the Jets aren't going anywhere this year. 10 OL gone in the 1st round and 5 in the 2nd round. All of the top OT and OG prospects gone by pick #74. 6 more OL gone by the end of the 3rd round, and it doesn't include comp picks.

    29.Tyler Guyton OT Oklahoma

    57. Malachi Corley WR Western Kentucky

    72. Xavier Legette WR South Carolina

    111. Brandon Coleman OG TCU

    113. Tanor Bortolini OC Wisconsin

    2025 TB 2nd
    2025 DET 3rd
    2025 TB 1st
     
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