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Discussion in 'Draft' started by James Hasty, Feb 28, 2021.
So.... Terry Bradway didn't have a problem identifying talent?
None of his 1st round picks outright busted. They were too expensive in general because he traded up twice and they took too long to become really productive but they all were NFL players in the end.
However he had no clue how to maintain a roster let alone rebuild one. The Jets OL was like a constant rebuild and usually had a weak spot because when you trade up and buy top end free agents you wind up with street meat, sometimes in the starting lineup.
Chad's wrist got broken in 2003 because the Jets guards on the field in front of him in pre-season were a converting DT learning how to play OG (Brandon Moore) and a Fin reject (Brent Smith). In 2005 the Jets were playing Adrian Jones at LT when Chad separated his shoulder. In 2007 they had Adrien Clarke at LG for 16 games.
It just never ended. The OL would come together for a few years and then Wayne Hunter would wind up helping Mark Sanchez on the way out the door.
The point is that being able to pick a good player out of the 1st round is not a sign of a good GM. All NFL GM's should be able to operate the first few rounds of the draft. If they need to trade up to do it they are robbing Peter to pay Paul and that's going to cost the team somewhere down the line.
I like AVT a lot but we gave up two 3rd round picks to choose him over somebody else in the NFL draft. I don't think the Jets ever have a talent margin that suggests that 3rd round picks are expendable for preferences that are just as likely to get hurt as any other NFL player.
I've lost all hope for you. There is no level you won't stoop to try to make a point.
36 LB Trenton Simpson Clemson
42 EDGE Adetomiwa Adebawore Northwestern
46 TE Darnell Washington Georgia
69 DT Siaki Ika Baylor
74 CB Tyrique Stevenson Miami (FL)
92 OC Luke Wypler Ohio State
111 LB DeMarvion Overshown Texas
229 S Gervarrius OwensHouston
from Bengals 1 Yr $12,604,000
from Chargers 1 Yr $1,451,777
2024 KC 2nd
2024 NE 3rd
2024 NJ 4th
2024 DEN 4th
2024 NYJ 6th
2008 6 Vernon Gholston DE Ohio State 5 2
30 Dustin Keller TE Purdue 5 5 
2009 5 Mark Sanchez QB USC 8 4 
2010 29 Kyle Wilson CB Boise State 6 5 
2011 30 Muhammad Wilkerson DL Temple 8 7 
2012 16 Quinton Coples DE North Carolina 4 4
2013 9 Dee Milliner CB Alabama 3 3
13 Sheldon Richardson DT Missouri 9* 4
2014 18 Calvin Pryor S Louisville 4 3
2015 6 Leonard Williams DT USC 8* 5
2016 20 Darron Lee LB Ohio State 5* 3
2017 6 Jamal Adams S LSU 6* 3 
2018 3 Sam Darnold QB USC 5* 3
2019 3 Quinnen Williams
Here’s the 14 1st round picks before JD
I count 5 talented players.
Are you really going to stick by the GM have always identified talent schitck?
I’m surprised no 1st round picks for a team all in to win now
I’m surprised trading for The Bengals’ worst OT is a step to cure our OT woes
I’m surprised the Rams would trade the RB they got with a premium pick who is finally 100% after his ACL tear…. A great trade for us since Breece won’t be 100% this year.
A very surprising draft
Jaxon Smith-Njigba WR
Steve Avila IOL
Daiyan Henley LB
Andre Carter II Edge
Wanya Morris OT
Jaquelin Roy DT
Clayton Tune QB
40 DT Calijah Kancey Pittsburgh
43 LB Trenton Simpson Clemson
62 CB Julius Brents Kansas State
66 WR Rashee Rice SMU
94 OC Luke Wypler Ohio State
115 TE Zack Kuntz Old Dominion
120 RB Israel Abanikanda Pittsburgh
WR Tyler.Boyd $8,450,000 salary plus $250,000 roster bonus in last year of his contract
OC/OG C.Ruiz $2,338,983 salary in last year of contract, team option in 2024 at $14,175,000 salary
2024 MIN 5th
Give up both the Jets and Broncos 2024 fourth round picks in trades
If Brents is a stud DJ Reed might see some snaps at free safety.
Here's my one and only attempt at a simulator this year. I kept it simple - no trades.
1. Peter Skoronski - OT
2. O'Cyrus Torrence - OG
3. Zacch Pickens - DT
4. SirVocea Dennis - LB
5. Dorian Thompson-Robinson - QB.
I really like Skoronski's potential versatility, especially with all the question marks on the Jets OL. One way or the other he'll make a big contribution this year.
Taking Torrence with the second pick is just making sure we have no excuses this year for having at least an above average, if not very good, OL, no matter what happens.
I think Pickens is underrated and can be a force in both pass rushing and run "D" which we can't have enough of.
Dennis is also very underrated, and while he might well turn out be a very good LB, he might even be used as a S.
DTR is just a hunch and hedging of bets if Zach actually fails to turn things around. At this point in the draft, I couldn't pass him up.
Bc you’re in capable of telling sarcasm, I need to point out the all OT and QB “the price for Rodgers just went down” draft and the trade all picks for just 3 were not serious mocks
You don’t take depth at 15, you do it in the 4th
You don’t take depth at 15, you do it in the 4th
You don’t draft depth at 15, you do it in the 4th..
added bunus link below if you want to read my OP the case for Bijan
Are you starting to see a pattern yet?
You don’t draft ___ at 15 you do it in the ____
@Borat every fucking mock draft looks pretty similar. DL or RB in the 1st and OT in the 4th…..
What happened? The RBs we wanted were off the board at 15 so we went with DL…. Any then took OT in the 4th…. How tf can you function in life if you can’t see this obvious pattern?
I felt like doing a 2024 mock using PFN just for the hell of it. We are picking 26 as of now.
32. Troy Franklin WR Oregon(after trade down with KC)
64. Layden Robinson G Texas A&M
89. Calen Bullock S USC
113. Tyreem Powell LB Rutgers
189. Shemar Turner DT A&M
A two round at pff is also up.
I reject our ability to pick at 26 without Rodgers playing 65% of the snaps