PFF 2021 Mock Draft Simulator

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  1. joelip

    joelip Well-Known Member

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  2. joelip

    joelip Well-Known Member

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    Good work. I think this mock shows that the Jets can have a great draft even if the more standard predictions (Thibodeaux, Ekwonu, etc.) don't work out.
     
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    I'm re-signing Maye, signing Darius Williams CB and D.J. Chark/Marquez Valdes-Scantling WR either of these guys. What do you guys think?

    4. Kayvon Thibodeaux EDGE Oregon
    22. Devin Lloyd LB Utah trade icon
    35. Perrion Winfrey DT Oklahoma
    38. Kenneth Walker III RB Michigan State
    53. Chad Muma LB Wyoming trade icon
    69. Jalen Wydermyer TE Texas A&M
    86. Justyn Ross WR Clemson trade icon
    110. Jake Ferguson TE Wisconsin
    116. Mario Goodrich CB Clemson
    146. Tariq Castro-Fields CB Penn State
    163. Smoke Monday S Auburn
     
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    4. Kayvon Thibodeaux Edge Oregon
    25. Nakobe Dean LB Georgia
    35. Breece Hall RB Iowa State
    38. Kenyon Green OG Texas A&M
    57. Jahan Dotson WR Penn State
    69. Chad Muma LB Wyoming
    111. Jake Ferguson TE Wisconsin
    146. John Ridgeway DT Arkansas
    163. Cade York K LSU
    203. Kellen Diesch OT Arizona

    Additional picks for 2023:
    Buffalo 2nd
     
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    My following draft included one trade down, I traded the 10th pick for Packers 22nd and 28th picks.

    I based this draft on what the Jets did in the off season and the teams need for playmakers, I feel there will be more value in middle of the 1st round and beyond.

    This is also based on the assumption that Becton is healthy and playing RT.

    This is how the board fell to me:

    4th pick- Aidan Hutchinson/ DE- Michigan
    22nd pick- Drake London/WR-USC
    28th pick- Treylon Burks/WR-Arkansas
    35th pick- Trey McBride/TE- Colorado State
    38th pick- Devonte Wyatt/DT-Georgia
    69th pick- John Metchie/ WR-Alabama
    111th pick- Darian Kinnard/OT- Kentucky
    117th pick- Channing Tindal/LB-Alabama
    146th pick- Haskel Garret/DT-Ohio State
    163rd pick- Marquese Bell/S- Florida A&M
     
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    This was a weird one, but I'd take it

    10.Kyle Hamilton S Notre Dame
    18. Chris Olave WR Ohio State trade icon
    35. Trent McDuffie CB Washington
    38. Drake Jackson EDGE USC
    43. Chad Muma LB Wyoming trade icon
    50. Breece Hall RB Iowa State
    74. John Metchie III WR Alabama
    75. Alec Lindstrom OC Boston College
    94. Quay Walker LB Georgia
    146. Alex Wright EDGE UAB
    2023 DEN 4th
     
  7. deviljets7

    deviljets7 Well-Known Member

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    I don't normally endorse waiting this long on OL, but the Day 2/3 values at DT and offensive skill spots were way too good to pass up

    10. Ahmad Gardner, CB, Cincinnati
    12. Travon Walker, Edge, Georgia
    35. Jahan Dotson, WR, Penn State
    38. Devonte Wyatt, DT, Georgia
    46. Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State
    69. Travis Jones, DT, Connecticut
    111. Isaiah Thomas, Edge, Oklahoma
    117. James Cook, RB, Georgia
    146. Jelani Woods, TE, Virginia
    163. Kellen Diesch, OT, Arizona State
    2023 MIN 2nd

    Trade was 4 to MIN for 12, 46 and MIN's 2023 2nd rounder
     
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    4. Kayvon Thibodeaux Edge Oregon
    10. Drake London WR USC
    35. Chad Muma LB Wyoming
    38. Breece Hall RB Iowa State
    69. Jeremy Ruckert TE Ohio State
    117. Cole Strange OG Chattanooga
    124. John Ridgeway DT Arkansas
    162. Smoke Monday S Auburn
    163. Cade York K LSU
     
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    K'OB 2021 TGG Fantasy Football Champ

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    NYJ
    14.Travon Walker
    EDGE Georgia
    trade icon
    NYJ
    35.Daxton Hill
    S Michigan
    NYJ
    38.Perrion Winfrey
    DT Oklahoma
    NYJ
    43.Jahan Dotson
    WR Penn State
    trade icon
    NYJ
    55.Trey McBride
    TE Colorado State
    trade icon
    NYJ
    64.Brandon Smith
    LB Penn State
    trade icon
    NYJ
    87.Romeo Doubs
    WR Nevada
    trade icon
    NYJ
    96.Jake Ferguson
    TE Wisconsin
    trade icon
    NYJ
    117.James Cook
    RB Georgia
    NYJ
    156.Alontae Taylor
    CB Tennessee
    trade icon
    2023 SEA 1st
    2023 PIT 1st
    2023 PIT 2nd
    2023 ATL 2nd

    Some nice picks for next year on top
     
  10. joelip

    joelip Well-Known Member

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    Here's a possible updated, no-trade mock using the Draft Network simulator:

    • 4.
      Kayvon Thibodeaux
      EDGE, Oregon (alternate: JJ, who appears to be similarly talented but a better fit as a team player)

    • 10.
      Jameson Williams
      WR, Alabama (at this point, I'm in favor of swinging for the fences in getting a premier deep threat that will maximize Zach's arm strength)

    • 35.
      Nakobe Dean
      LB, Georgia (can't pass up first round talent and excellent scheme fit)

    • 38.
      Travis Jones
      IDL, UConn (Jets desperately need a run stopping DT)

    • 69.
      Nicholas Petit-Frere
      OT, Ohio State (fixes the swing tackle problem as he's groomed as a future starter)

    • 111.
      Coby Bryant
      CB, Cincinnati (much needed depth/starter challenger for CB, excellent scheme fit)
    • 117.
      Brian Robinson Jr.
      RB, Alabama (thumper to complement Carter)

    • 146.
      Luke Fortner
      IOL, Kentucky (interior OL depth)

    • 163.
      Bryan Cook
      S, Cincinnati (beefs up the safety position)
     
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    4. Kayvon Thibodeaux Edge Oregon
    14. Devin Lloyd LB Utah
    35. Breece Hall RB Iowa State
    38. Kenyon Green OG Texas A&M
    45. Devonte Wyatt DT Georgia
    69. Jeremy Ruckert TE Ohio State
    111. Calvin Austin III WR Memphis
    120 Troy Anderson LB Montana State
    146. Dominique Robinson Edge Miami-OH
    160. Smoke Monday S Auburn
    163. Cade York K LSU
     
  12. James Hasty

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    10 Kayvon Thibodeaux EDGE Oregon
    16 Travon Walker EDGE Georgia

    35 Drake London WR USC
    38 Jaquan Brisker S Penn State
    39 Breece Hall RB Iowa State
    48 Tyler Smith OT Tulsa
    49 Arnold Ebiketie EDGE Penn State

    65 Kyler Gordon CB Washington

    2023 NO 5th

    I went for value with every pick but was fortunate to have some players fall to me.

    First trade was with the Saints (# 4 & 69 for 16, 19, 49 & next year's fifth rounder)

    Second trade was with the Bears (# 19, 111 & 146 for 39, 48 71).

    Third trade was with the Jaguars (# 71 & 163 for 65)

    None of our future picks were sactificed.
     
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    Are you just trying to wind a bunch of people up, or do you really think taking three Edges is a good draft?
     
  14. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    Eight starting quality players and you are bitching about a third stud edge rusher?

    Saleh likes to rotate players and we still haven't made a decision on the long term future of Williams.

    If you don't like that mock with all of its value I don't know what to tell you.

    What wonderful players should I have taken at those three spots where I took the pass rushers?
     
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    IDK what players were available to you in your mock so I can't answer that question. But I don't think taking even two Edges is going to happen.

    Are you advocating drafting Walker as a possible replacement for Q? If so, how do you answer those (you might've even been one of them) who say it's a waste to draft another OT even though we have even less reason to believe that Becton will work out than Q?

    Maybe you're closer to what JD and Saleh are thinking, but I don't think so.
     
  16. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    I am a big believer in value.

    I would rather take any of the three offensive tackles at # 10 than any wide receiver in this draft.

    Thibs at # 10 was a no brainer when no one wanted to trade up.

    When I picked at # 16 Sauce and Hamilton were gone as were all three tackles.

    I forget if Stingley was available but Walker at # 16 was just an incredible opportunity.

    By the time I got to pick 49 all of the best players at other positions were gone.

    If all three DEs I drafted turned out to be very good to great players we could have worse problems.
     
  17. ColoradoContrails

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    I understand wanting to acquire the BPAs regardless of position/need, but that's what got Macc in trouble. I think you have to balance acquiring the "pure" BPA against what it is you need at that point in the draft. The only exception to that "rule" is if your team is already a winner and you can afford to simply add talent wherever you can find it and fit it.

    And I sort of agree - with the exception of Williams - that the top OLs are a better pick in the top half of the draft than the other WRs who are then pretty closely bunched together in talent/fit. But I feel the same about Edge - there's Hutch, and then no one else is a slam dunk. I assume we disgree on those assessments, but taking mine into account and applying that to what I know about your mock and player availability/trades, I would've taken Williams at 10 if he was there, or one of the remaining OL I like the best. Then I would've been happy to take Ebiketie as my Edge, Brisker as my safety, although I would've taken Dotson maybe over London I'm not sure.

    Anyway, the point is that after the 2nd round you can't really count on certain success, and so I think you need to use those picks for the highest priority of positional need which IMO are: Edge, WR, OL, DT.
     
  18. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    If you take Williams at 10 Hutch and Walker should both be gone at 16 along with Sauce and Hamilton so who do you take at 16?

    Hutch at 10 is something you don't pass up..

    The real problem I had at 16 is that everyone else undervalued Walker and I already had Hutch.

    Linderbaum was probably the next man up in terms of value but that wasn't the call I wanted to make there.
     
  19. deviljets7

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    PFF

    10. Evan Neal, OT, Alabama
    16. Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama
    35. Boye Mafe, Edge, Minnesota
    38. Travis Jones, DT, UConn
    53. Christian Harris, LB, Alabama
    62. Jalen Tolbert, WR, South Alabama
    69. Dylan Parham, G, Memphis
    77. Kerby Joseph, S, Illinois
    103. Tyler Allgeier, RB, BYU
    146. Cordale Flott, CB, LSU
    163. Zach Tom, OT, Wake Forest

    TRADES
    Pick #4 and NYJ's 2023 3rd Rounder to the Panthers for Pick #6 and CAR's 2023 1st Rounder
    Pick #6 and NYJ's 2023 5th Rounder to the Commanders for Pick #11 and WAS's 2023 1st Rounder
    Pick #11 to the Vikings for Picks #12, 77 and MIN's 2023 3rd Rounder
    Pick #12 to the Saints for Picks #16 and 49
    Picks #49, 111 and 117 to the Packers for Picks #53 and 59
    Pick #59 to the Chiefs for Picks #62 and 103

    Waiting til round 2 for an edge or using the first pick on an OL was not the initial plan, but when you can leverage pick #4 and a future 5th rounder into 16, 49, 77 and 2 future 1st rounders, you just can't say no lol
     
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    4. Kayvon Thibodeaux Edge Oregon
    10. Garrett WIlson WR Ohio State
    35. Linderbaum OC Iowa
    46. Quay Walker LB Georgia
    69. Isaiah Spiller RB Texas A&M
    77. Jeremy Ruckert TE Ohio State
    111. Darian Kinnard OT Kentucky
    117. Leon O'Neal Jr S Texas A&M
    163. Cade York K LSU

    A few notes:
    I couldn't resist when Linderbaum fell to round 2.
    Spiller can complement Carter.
    The kicking situation can be stabilized with York.
     

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