You are kidding aren't you. We moved up (by throwing in a lot), we were not a top pick team that the Rams, Lions and Tampa were!
Peyton Manning $23 million dollars * estimated salary Michael Vick Approx. $20 million dollars *estimated salary Mark Sanchez $14.75 million dollars Ben Roethlisberger $14.75 million dollars Carson Palmer $14 million dollars Tom Brady $13 million dollars Matt Stafford $12 million dollars Matt Ryan $11.25 million dollars Philip Rivers $11.2 million dollars Tony Romo $11 million dollars Eli Manning $10 million dollars Jay Cutler $9 million dollars Aaron Rodgers $8.25 million dollars Drew Brees $7.3 million dollars Matt Schaub $6.8 million dollars Of the QBs you mentioned, Sanchez makes FAR more than ALL of them. He is making 6.5 million more than Aaron Rodgers this year. Stafford is doing awesome this year too, as are a few others(not on your list). Also, many of the teams with the QBs you mentioned had top round picks due to bad seasons. You guys gave away tons to get Sanchez. My point is a good one, with what Sanchez is being paid, he should be producing far more, consistently.
I agree with this. Point #2 before writing off Sanchez You mean like the Al Davis-less Raiders that gave up 2 firsts for a has been Carson Palmer - USC QB justsayin
Plus ... Flacco, Freeman, and Tebow were mid-1st rounders. Doesn't sound like a big difference until you consider both salaries and the price to move up. That narrows the list to Russell (epic bust), Ryan (better than Sanchez), Stafford (I think he's better, but that's just opinion, arguments could be made either way), Bradford (great rookie year, sophomore slump, injuries, horrible team.. we'll see)
You're fucking joking right? Sanchez was a steal with what they gave to the Browns. Everyone and their mother laughed at the Browns for such a retard trade. We didn't give up shit. Two picks and 3 JAGs isn't a lot.
I like to hear your arguments on Sanchez aboveStafford, unfortunately for me it is not even a competition. he is injury prone, which is the only really bad thing you can say about the kid.
If Manning is estimated for $23 mill with the jets under the cap at 10-12 possibly for next year, where is that money coming from. You are not clearing ALL of Sanchez' salary off the cap. Even if he was cut, he would have a portion guaranteed that would hit our own cap. Who else with higher salaries are we going to cut off? If we get rid of all the "Jay Feely's" and Thomas Jones" there won't be enough room to keep Manning for 3 years and maintain any of our core players. Who else - Mangold? Revis? Brick? Harris? No thank you. I'll stick with them. I'm no cap guru but even taking round numbers like $20 mil for Manning, with $15 mill in cap space, it would be incredibly difficult to get this deal done. Listen to me - If Manning is willing to come here, and he passes a physical, and the Jets can get it done without mortgaging the entire future of the franchise? I am 110% behind it. There's nothing more I want than to repay the NFL by having the Jets win the SB 2 or 3 times. The Colts had barely a Defense and were an instant SB fav every year and won 10 games or more for a decade. I have no problem cutting bait with Sanchez and landing Manning to be in that position for 2 or 3 years.
you rememeber that play last year in the playoffs against the Patriots, sanchez moved a little out of the pocket, pointed braylon to a spot and threw a missile right to him? He looked like a top tier QB on that play, he's got the ability and the tools, I just think it's still going to take some time, he's ridiculously young, say what you want, i want results now too as much as anyone, but Sanchez' best is yet to come, and it will. I am not a huge fan of scottenheimer, but that's another dead horse i am sick of beating.
Yeah, that's not such a big deal. its not as if you need your QB to actually be able to stay on the field for a full season.
Well i agree on that. 2 picks (1st and 2nd) + ratliff, coleman and anpther dude i cannot remember didn't feel like a lot at the time.
He's Favreian gunslinger for better or worse. Hard to compare effectiveness because he has Calvin Johnson and we don't. Very injury prone, hasn't win anything yet. Easy to come up with reasons. That being said, Stafford has shown much more "throw the team on my back" ability than Sanchez, who is only trying to be a solid link on a chain.
You and everyone else can call Stafford a better QB than Sanchez. But if Stafford isn't on the field, he isn't making plays. That means Brunell is under center for us right now. Which would you rather have. The struggling MS or a non-existent Stafford.
of course it is a big deal, and i hope he has sorted it out now because I like their QB. It depends on if we were talking about better pick or better player.
Sanchez has engineered some "throw the team on my back, come from behind wins" in 2010, so i wouldn't say he's totally inept at being clutch.
Manning signed a 90/5 deal, that's an 18M average. If for some reason his cap number is 23 next year, it means we'd be getting a bargain down the line. Thus we can either backload some deals, or load up then.
