But most teams in the 25-32 range have a reliable QB already. Most likely the pick would be better, since the worse teams usually don't have a stable QB.
It is financially impossible to keep Manning and Sanchez, and still very difficult even cutting Sanchez. Manning does not reduce the need for a RT, at least not by much. Many of the sacks on Sanchez he couldn't have prevented because he's getting hit almost immediately, although a certain person here seems to think that being 8th worst in the league in sacks means above average pass protection. LOL. All you have to do is watch Wayne Hunter in most of the games. He got owned 1 on 1 constantly. If he starts and we have Peyton Manning, Peyton will be injured by game 6 and career will be over. Sanchez was decent at escaping sacks, although his ball protection needs more work. Fixing the line is a much bigger need than QB, and i'll be sad if Sanchez doesn't get a year in the new system. The prime reason we got Sparano was because it was a system that Sanchez can be successful in. We pick up Manning now, and all of that goes out the window. Sanchez will stay.
Won't be a late first unless you can match up the teams that have the picks with Sanchez and that's hard to do. Redskins, Seahawks, maybe a surprise contender, those'd be the bidders. I suspect that both the Redskins and the Seahawks would value their current 1st as too pricey for Sanchez.
I'm with you, I say stick with Sanchez. Any time we try to live in the moment or the past it never works out. Everyone wants the Peyton Manning in his prime, nobody wants to go through the process necessary to get there. Manning didn't even win a playoff game his first few years in the league, I understand he wasn't on as good a team in the beginning but he also got there and didn't advance a few times. In this past playoffs people were talking about Matt Ryan winning one playoff game to validate his regular season success, just another example that it takes a while to get to that point. The way there is to stick with your young guy, not to bring in a guy who is past that and hope he gets it back. We saw what happens with Favre, who was healthier than Manning if a lot dumber. I'm pretty sure the Colts would have made more effort to keep him if they thought he was going to be his old self for any length of time and who knows him better than they do?
There is a definite market if he's released. I'd love to know if there's a trade market for him though, and if so, what his value would be.
I could see Cleveland or Miami making a play too, but i wouldn't want to trade Sanchez inside the division. Basically whatever team loses out on trading up for RG3 might look to trade for Sanchez. Cleveland & Washington probably wouldn't trade their first (too high), but I'd take a swap of 1sts or a 2nd & a 3rd/4th.
I apologize, that's where I suspect his value is (25-30's straight up). Whether we'd trade Sanchez for a middle of the first round pick and ship a 3rd and 6th along tidy up the gap in value, it's semantics.
If the Jets are forced to sign Manning this week then they're also forced to trade or cut Sanchez this week. There's just no way they can fit both under the cap and they have to do that by the beginning of the league year on Tuesday I believe. I think they'd trade Sanchez to the Patriots if they had too to get some value back before they had to cut him. I think they'd trade him to the Fins much more easily than that.
I don't see how it would make any sense at all to get rid of a 3-year starting QB who has had a ton of success for a QB who was the best of his generation - but is coming off of multiple neck surgeries and hasn't played a down in over a year. We have spent the last three years building an identity and success - and now people want to throw it away because of one bad year - where Sanchez wasn't as bad as people say he was, the OL sucked, receivers sucked, OC sucked around him.
It's not that the majority of people want to get rid of Sanchez. I like the kid, and would love to have him remain a Jet. However, we're not a young team. We can't afford to have the primes of Revis, Mangold, Brick, Tone, etc. pass as we're waiting for Sanchez to progress to the elite level of QB. If we were rebuilding, there's no way I dump Sanchez in favor of Manning. Obviously, the goal isn't to rebuild. We're trying to win a SuperBowl. Sanchez isn't good enough to carry us there yet, and I don't think the defense is good enough to anymore. We still have a solid overall team, but we can't win a ring with anything short of an elite QB at this point.
If the Jets were to make this move, which is still highly unlikely considering his other options, it's not as if they were building momentum the last three seasons and carrying it into 2012. That's the opposite of whats happened. Sanchez's rookie season, the Jets were deemed a team built to win "now" and that Sanchez was our Achilles heal. Wrong. Our Achilles heal is that we didn't have Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, Peyton or Eli Manning, or Ben Roethlisberger. That's the caliber of quarterback that wins Super Bowls. Peyton's on that list and Mark isn't. Could Sanchez turn into Brees-lite? Sure. Will he? Most likely not. Can Peyton overcome a major injury and return to MVP form? That's a huge wildcard too, but he's proven he CAN be the best player at his position. With Sanchez he's proven he can get out of the way, hand the ball off and if all the pieces fit together, we can win a few playoff games. On top of it all, we all know the grass is greener on the other side. And Rex is absolutely in love with Peyton. I don't trust Sanchez to be mature enough to handle the fact the Jets are in the Peyton sweepstakes, which is why I'm leaning more and more towards signing Manning.
I would really love to hear Mark comment on everything that has happened since the end of last season. He's a "franchise" QB in NY and he has been persona non grata since the year ended. I think it might do a lot for him if he came out and faced the media. He never addressed the locker room turmoil, all the criticism of his on field play, criticism of the team allegedly coddling him, how he feels about not being pushed by a legit #2, and now, the Jets interest in Manning. Rather than address it, Mark just kind of vanished. I'm probably looking too into it, but maybe it says a lot about him. Maybe he does get butt hurt easily.
I don't agree. In 2010 we were a few plays away from the superbowl with Sanchez. If we fill the holes we have, especially the line, we'll be just fine. Honestly, the only people really taking this drama seriously are the fans. I'm sure Mark put this past him a long time ago and probably isn't even worried about Manning actually being signed. It only makes sense to doom and gloom fans.
Is anyone else not troubled by the fact that the Colts, rather than restructure or whatever, are cutting ties and taking their chances with a #1 pick? If we're even talking about the Peyton Manning of two or three yeas ago it's a different discussion but we aren't. Regarding Sanchez's reaction if we court Manning and don't get him, I'm not concerned about that. If bringing in a viable second QB to challenge him isn't a realistic option maybe this is the next best thing to light him up. He gets paid a lot of money and I think he knows it's a business, if not one of the older guys will surely explain it to him. It's not like we're looking into replacing him with Jake Delhomme, it is Peyton Manning, although likely an over-the-hill one.
Not at all concerned. They had no choice. They're rebuilding. The have a new front office & staff. They have the #1 pick who is the highest rated QB coming out of college since Peyton. It doesn't make sense to restructure Peyton & keep him on a rebuilding team. They had to move on. Had they gone 5-11 or 6-10 the situation would have been completely different. When you're sitting at #1 though, the Luck era & the rebuilding begins immediately.
They are completely rebuilding from the top on down.....better to start with a young "Peyton Like" QB that sets you up for the next 15 than have Peyton come back with nobody around him......
The Colts hands were tied by the timing of the bonus. The only scenario that even remotely works for them other than cutting Peyton Manning would have been to pay the bonus and play him. Obviously they were not confident enough of his ability to play to pay the bonus with the intention of playing him and so they had to cut him. The number I've seen bandied about for the cost of trading him after he was paid the bonus was $38.4 million against the 2012 cap. At the moment the Colts are at about $15.5 million under the cap counting the fact that Manning is gone and there's no way they could have cleared the extra room to facilitate a "bonus + trade" scenario.
If they paid Peyton they would have likely lost Brackett, two of their top receivers and Freeney.....They would have had him back and been at best a 500 team. Rebuilding with Luck is the way to go. Manning will go to a win now team and he probably will win!
