Hack better have one of the more productive off-seasons ever for a QB. He will need to go to a QB that can fix his mechanics, continue to learn the playbook, maybe get some receivers out there and throw the football. It can be a lot in 6 months.
Based on Bowles' presser today, it sounds like they've already made significant changes to Hack's mechanics despite initially saying that it was something to be addressed in the offseason. That's encouraging. It never made sense to me to wait until the offseason, because if you're committed to giving him a redshirt year no matter what, why bother waiting? He's not playing under any circumstances so pushing off the mechanical work would've been a complete waste of time.
Petty has had an average of 2 seconds to get the ball out or get out of the pocket. And I am not the guy comparing a 4 game starter to the greatest QB of all time, but Brady has a lifetime to scan the field and watch his recievers get open because he actually has an OL.
Brady gives himself time by slightly drifting around the pocket to set his offensive linemen up with leverage and find open space, as opposed to standing in one spot and letting guys tee off on him.
Oh I didn't know they already made the changes or started doing so. I guess they had to speed things up, but it would've been better if they did this the minute he was drafted. Got him the reps and didn't resign Fitz. He would've played this year. I can't agree on how the Jets handled this before, but they need to make that partnership work somehow now. He's the wildcard, and to me with this regime, he's my last hope for this regime to get it right. Mac tied himself to that pick.
He also gets rid of the ball quickly, because he's ridiculously smart presnap. Petty's process is extremely slow.
And despite Brady's less then athletic ability, he's extremely good after the snap in terms of moving around the pocket and locating defenders. His ball placement ability is still the best in the league.
Cmon, Brady was a statue his first few years. He took 41 sacks in his first year as a starter, 7 in a single game against the Chargers. Since then he averages about 25 per year. It takes time to build up the ability to look down field, sense the pocket, and develop the footwork necessary to move where you need to move to extend plays. It also takes alot of time with your OL to understand how they will move guys so you the QB know where to move yourself. Petty had no practice with his OL, and has had a new OL every game he started.
""The idea was to put him on the shelf, regardless, and let him get better, going in," Bowles said. "He wasn't going to come in and then beat out two guys, or three guys, that were ahead of him. But, he can use some mechanical work, and he got better as the year went on. That'll only show in the game. "But to put him out there in the last game and say, 'His mechanics are great,' or, 'His mechanics are bad,' doesn't make any sense, either."
Idk, maybe there are guys that can develop it down the road in their career, but I saw it in guys like Mariota and Goff in college and it carried into their rookie years. That's the huge difference between those 2 early in their careers and Petty IMO. The Titans went 2-14 last year and the Rams are bad now because of terrible supporting casts, but the quarterbacks showed those traits like pocket awareness and anticipation despite everything collapsing around them. Petty is dealing with a similar supporting cast and doesn't show the positive characteristics I saw in Mariota and now Goff early on.
I've been fully on board with keeping Hackenberg on the pine all year to develop but you have a situation tailor made to give him his first start here. Low expectations, no one really caring/watching at this point anyway, at home in the last game of the year against a team that just fired their head coach, benched their starting QB and is making golf vacation plans just like the Jets.. Would be the perfect spot for Hackenberg to play and gain some momentum heading into next year. I think they are missing an opportunity here. - now the story is that he sucks so bad they can't even play him in a meaningless game like this. I think that hurts his long term growth more than throwing him out there, losing a ho hum 24-17 game, where Hackenberg can get his feet wet a little and the story will be the things he did well in that game all offseason.
I agree, Petty has not shown talent at eluding a pass rush by any stretch. Its one of the disappointments as he was considered an athletic QB out of college. But after a handful of games I dont think its something so bad you throw the kid away. Brady and Russell Wilson are two very different QB's and each HC gameplans the best way for the offense to succeed. For Seattle, Wilson is more dangerous outside of the pocket than in the pocket so Pete Carroll calls for scrambles and the WR's are very good at getting open for big gainers when the pocket breaks down. Belicheck would never call a play with Brady scrambling out of the pocket, nor should he. We dont know what Petty could develop into, but he seems more like a Brady than a Wilson and you would hope he develops the skill to move around the pocket to extend plays and you would also hope the coaching staff shapes the team to take advantage of your QB's skillset.
It's not just Brady. When Brady went down with season ending injury, this dude named Matt Cassell came in relief. Patriots missed the playoff with 11-win season. Then Brady was suspended for the first 4 games this season. Jimmy G and Brissett did just fine in relief performance. If you think Belicheat somehow lucked into Brady, you are missing out. And imagine what Petty could look like in that jersey. Would he have same deer-in-headlight look? I bet he won't. After the GM gets the kids, it's the coaches' job to raise them up - which Bowles and Co. failed miserably.
The million dollar question is if you gave Belichick the Jets roster today could he make them a playoff team? I bet he could.
Trick question, if you gave Belichick this roster he'd have a heart attack at how many declining vets over the age of 30 he had and when he woke up he'd trade or release them all.
All this fix Hacks mechanics stuff is bullshit. The GM blew our 2nd round pick, when we needed to fill so many other positions. The reason he won't play this season, isn't about mechanics. It's about saving face over a wasted pick. I guess all the QB charmers believe in "the plan"? Can't see the forest for the trees. Hack will never, ever, be anything more than below average in the NFL. Otherwise he would be playing if he wasn't a wasted pick. The GM knows it, Bowles knows it, but the "5 year plan QB charmers" can't see it. For all of you that support the "Hack Plan", Petty must be miles ahead of Hack. Anyone with any football sense can see that Petty was a much better QB in college. They should also be able to see that Hack's old college team, sure was a lot better once he left town. What does all this say about Mac's wasted pick in the 2nd round? Can he be groomed at all by any coach? The fans of Hack believe so. Any of you Hack fans wanna make a bet about the outcome of his future? If so, let me know.
I thought Brissett was awful to be honest. The difference is simple, the Patriots know what their QBs can do and they know that better in comparison to the Jets CS and the QBs they have on the roster. We don't tailor the offense to our QBs strengths, we never really did. That could be the difference why we see bad QB play from young QBs. Belicheat did luck into Brady though, just like the Cowboys lucked in Dak. Lucky enough to know the other teams in the league were stupid for passing on him.
What will he learn from this game? Maybe what an NFL field feels like, what an NFL defense looks like, how fast an NFL game runs - just a few dozen things there is no other way to learn. He doesn't need to be in an NFL game to practice his mechanics but it might help him find out why they need changing. You're 100% correct that you have to walk before you can run and he won't get a better opportunity than this to be able to walk, and not run, in an NFL game. I'm not one to run my life in fear of getting hurt and no pro quarterback should either.
Can't disagree with what you said here, at the end of the day it's not Hack's fault [yet], the Jets CS put him in this situation and babied him. If they worked on these mechanics the moment he was drafted and got him the proper reps on OTAs / TC, he would've played this week or would've been ready to play.
