I really don't see the Jets going much more than 4-3 or 5-2 over those last games. Raiders is almost a gimme win so that's 1. Ravens, they're not the team they were last year, but they're not that far behind. Biggest loss for them is the inspirational leader in Lewis, but on the field he wasn't a hug factor for them last year as injuries and age had caught up with him. Raven's have to be the favorite here unless the Jets offense has started to jell by that point in time. The Panthers game is basically a toss up, I like the Panthers a little better than the Jets as an OVERALL team mostly because of Cam Newton. But I consider that game basically a toss up. The Browns game. I have them as a very slight favorite over the Jets, but the game really is a toss up in my eyes. The Bills I think are a much better team than the Jets overall this year. As long as EJ plays well the Bills are just too loaded on offense and their defense is more than a match for the Jets offense. That's a probable loss. Which leaves the two Dolphins games. And here I'm hedging, the one thing I believe is that the Jets and the Dolphins will be battling to not be the last team in the division. But I really don't have a feel for the Dolphins at all. so at this point I'm guessing they split the two games, but honestly I think either team could sweep the other in what I'm terming the inept bowl. Of course all prediction's go out the window in case of major injury to one team or the other. The Key for the Jets to have even a shot at 8-8 is keeping the turnovers low. It's possible the light goes on for Geno at some point during the season, but I'm expecting a rookie type season out of Geno. Sanchez if he plays you can kiss the low turnovers goodbye. to me the difference for this season only is that Geno has a chance to improve over the season while Sanchez might put up better overall numbers under MM he'll still be the turnover machine he's always been. Regarding the comment of playing only 1 team over .500 last year in the last 7 games, true. But the Jets play only 2 teams who lost more games than they did over that span and one of those teams only lost 1 more game than the jets. The Question for the second half of the season is did the Jets improve more than the other teams on the schedule over the offseason? My answer in most of the cases is no, they didn't. Of course it's football and on any given Sunday even the Raiders might beat the Patriots in one out of 20 tries so you never know...one lucky bounce of the ball can change an entire game flow...One turnover in a key situation can let the underdog beat the juggernaut.
Shit like this just pisses me off. The Jets have become an urban legend to the fans around the NFL and they treat them like they are the worst team in NFL history, when in actuality they have made the playoffs a decent number of times since 2000. It would be great if the Jets can make the playoffs this year just so I can go back and tell everyone that said that they were the worst team in history to go to hell and go back to making fun of the Raiders, Bills, Browns and Dolphins.
What the team did in 2000-2010 is irrelevant. Unless you playing Madden football and using the roster from one of those years. I'm not a darksider, this is the first season that I've entered the season thinking the Jets were a bad team in a long time. Last year at the start of the season I said the Jets could be a good team if they limit their turnovers. They didn't and they weren't. could the roster be better this year than it was last year, sure. I'm also not a darksider in this view because I think the roster is set to be good next year and beyond. But this year the team has a thin roster, an unsettled QB situation, a questionable O-line, and a questionable running game. The team has jettisoned a lot of things from the old regime in terms of players and coaches as a result the Team is very young with a lot of UDFA's on it, AND the team in implementing a new offensive system with a HeadCoach who most view as a lame duck. None of these things are a recipe for success this season. Could it all jell? Sure, absolutely. Is it likely that it will? No. But I do have high hopes for 2014 and beyond. There is a difference between buying in to the "urban legend" and looking at the current situation objectively without wearing green colored goggles.
Is there ever anything positive posted on this site? I realized a long time ago, that it is much easier to be critical of something than not. I don't know why, but it is. It's a shame
I'd love to be wrong about this season, really I would. I just don't see it at this point, at least not on paper and not comparing rosters. but that's part of the joy of playing the season, things don't work out like they look on paper at the beginning of the year. Injuries will derail some teams. Some players will have an off year and not perform to their normal levels. Some players will have the light suddenly click on and become better players than they have in the past. Some players will have everything just go right and have the best season that they'll have in their entire career, past or present. A single tipped ball in a key situation and where that ball decides to come down can decide a game's outcome. A fumble that pops back in to the hands of the fumbler can save a drive and win the game, that same fumble if it bounces to a defender who scoops it for a fumble TD can change a win in to a loss. A key player on the other team may have the flu and as a result the other lesser team wins the game. Lots of factors that you just can not predict, it's just impossible. All you can do is look at the rosters, the players, what they have done in the past and try to project what's reasonable for them to do this season and try to predict the outcome. Predicting a season is kind of like baking a cake by tossing all the ingredients 20 feet across the room in to a 10" pan...Yes you know the ingredients, yes you know the quantity you have, but you can't predict in advance what percentage of those ingredients will land in the pan when tossed across the room. You can estimate, but one missed egg can throw off the whole cake!
That is not the point. This team is treated as if it is the worst team in NFL history. Peter King predicting 3-13 is about this season. I more or less came on here after reading the deadspin article about why your team sucks and then reading the comments. Unfortunately, for this season the season lies in the hands of Geno. If he can be better than Mark last year, then the team could win from 7-10 games if not they will win anywhere from 3-6 games.
I expect Geno to have rookie issues this year, I expect the team this year to be a 3-6 win team. And it goes beyond the QB, just as it did last year. I expect that Geno will probably turn the ball over 15-20 times this season and maybe put up 15-20 td's...Acceptable? No, but he's a rookie on a team without much depth. Main thing is if he grows over the season and starts cutting down rookie errors as the season progresses. I also expect the Defense to struggle abit this year, though not because of lack of talent, They've got a lot of talent on defense. But, Like Geno, the defense is young and largely in experienced, they'll make mistakes. I don't believe in cursed franchises, unless your talking about the Cubs but that's another story. But this is going to be a rough season and at times it's going to be really ugly...especially if the run game is crap.
No, they are being treated like a team that is chocked full of unproven players and question marks. God forbid the media isn't as optimistic about the team the way fans are. this team could easily be 3-13 if the unproven players don't perform as we hope. Obviously I hope they all turn into the players the organization expect them to be, until they actually show that they have, I have no idea whether they will and so the idea that this team could be as bad as the media thinks they can be is a reasonable position.
To me the biggest upgrade we have from last year is Marty M. That can go a long way. Remember how God awful we were in the preseason last year? That + Tebow translated very well to a bottom of the barrel offense. This year the offense had a respectable showing in the PS, with a brand new system in place. Does this automatically translate to 5 more wins? of course not, but it DEFINITELY doesn't translate to 3 LESS wins. I think we can easlity wind up 8-8, with a shot to do better and be fighting for a playoff spot with 3 games to go. I will say that I think we have a better record than the Giants this year, they do not look good. And wouldn't that be sweet.
I can almost read the New York papers after the Buc's game,, Jets Loss -- Season Over. Rex will be fired in week 2. All Jets Fans are heading to high bridges. The writers can't wait for this game to be over.
If everything breaks right - 8-8 could happen. Totally agree on MM. It was nice to actaully see some receivers open this pre-season compared to last yr...
I actually am not referring to that. Based upon my statement you see that I dont think that they are going to be very good (I am leaning towards Geno playing poorly, which rookie qb data trends toward). Go ahead and do yourself a favor and read deadspin article. You will think the Jets are the worst team in NFL history. If they were to have gone 0-16 last year while getting blown out every game then the comments and many of the articles being written would be justified.
And the way that the Jets played in 09 and 10 that usually would mean they would come back and get a huge win the following week. Unfortunately, that stopped around week 10 2011.
I can't see it. The press really does love to rip this team. The team inspite of themselves seems to be improved in some areas. And with a new Qb (hopefully) it has to be better than last season. More speed on D, too. I don't see a whole lot coming from other teams even in the AFC East. Including New England who is going with a lot of no-names on offense to go with Brady, etc. I say at least the six Ws we had last year, probably 7-8.
#4 overall offense in the preseason. I know it's not the be all end all, but it shows the Jets won't be the worst team in the league. It's beyond a joke. It's not about unknown players, it's about them having a better offense with MM and it's obviously apparent that his system is making a big difference thus far. Lets be real here. The only reason people are saying 2-4 wins for the Jets is because of the buttfumble. Despite the multitude of turnovers and major injuries last year we still won 6 games. There's no way we do worse than that barring injuries again. It's completely illogical.
I like the way Idzik addressed the OL. Hopefully the guys he brought in are good players. The big surprise is that apparently Vlad is one of the most improved players on the team. Drafting Milliner was very smart because you need two good CBs but so far he hasn't stood out. But in college he was an impact player. And with all of the high draft picks they've spent on DLs in recent years they still haven't been able to put together a good pass rush. We'll see.
preseason is not even the end all be all -- it is completely meaningless. I learned that as a kid when we went 4-0 in 1990, then proceeded to go 4-12. this is where junc is absolutely right -- fantasy stats.
What's amazing is that the Excuses that Mark supporters were giving for the past couple of years are all of a sudden excuses for the team this year...lol No Receivers, O-Line, RB... Funny thing is we finally have a Damn OC & QB Coach!! I think we will win more than 3, our D should be good enough to keep games close.
Peter King @SI_PeterKing 4m RT @MarkCannizzaro: So about those preseason prognostications predicting Giants as NFC East champs and Jets as chumps ... Guilty as charged.
