On the field Harvin is a perfect fit. He's exactly what this offense needs. Theres nothing to dislike about what he could bring to this offense. Let's hope they use him right and keep his head in the right place
The Seahawks did not use him correctly. Rarely lined him up outside, tried way to many gimmick plays. It was frustrating watching them waste his talent I think the Jets will get the most out of him. I hope they put him on punt returns, and line him up every where X,Y,Z. I like this move a lot
When healthy in Minny he was one of the best players in the league. He has incredible quickness and toughness. He's a game breaker and excellent returner. I just hope Marty (who's been sub-par thus far) doesn't make too many gadget plays for him. He really doesn't need that many. Just throw him the ball a LOT and watch him produce.
If he stays healthy, he's can be impossible to deal with. He makes catches in traffic, plays allot bigger than he is., and he may be the fastest guy in the nfl. Shame the trade happened so late.
I'm no expert, but when I've watched Seattle play what I see primarily is that they use a very limited number of looks on offense. (Interestingly, the same is more or less true of the defense). It really limits the amount of decision making Wilson is responsible for, but works well because it caters to the talent that they have. They have a strong, smart offensive line, that are powerful run blockers, a powerful running back with excellent ability to break tackles, and two strong and physical WR's who are not particularly explosive. They have a mobile QB, who can elude rushers and gain yards on the ground. Marshawn Lynch is the cornerstone of the offense, which is only aided by the run blocking abilities of his line. He is so adept at breaking tackles that it forces second level defenders to play close to the line, since even when the blocking scheme is occasionally blown up, he tends to break free of the first would-be tackler. This threat makes play action a more viable strategy than for almost any other team, amplified by Russell Wilson's very controlled mobility. Wilson is so confident throwing on the move, that he is able to roll out frequently and complete a high percentage of those passes. The ability to gain yards on the ground as a secondary option to passing help keep Wilson from making the big mistake. Their offensive attack is very horizontal as a result of these roll outs, often opening up clearer passing lanes to a horizontally moving RB, TE, or WR. By forcing defenses to play against this horizontal style, they occasionally open up a nice deep pass. Their WR's are both strong and physical, making them very useful blocking for Lynch and ad-libbed runs by Wilson. The read option fits into this skill set very well, but again is a very horizontal set of plays. Harvin has a great many uses, but primarily plays best in space. He is very physical for his size, but physicality display themselves in different ways. For example, some players break tackles through sheer force, whereas Harvin breaks tackles the best when he is moving at a high speed, and last moment changes of direction throw defenders off balance. While they may still make contact, his maneuverability combined with his decent physicality make it very difficult for these off balance defenders to bring him down. In a highly horizontal offense, he does not get in space as frequently. While his presence makes it easier for players like Lynch and Wilson, his own personal skill set never gets fully utilized. Harvin can do so many things, but in Seattle the basis of their offense is fine tuned simplicity so it just never maximized Harvin's skills. The ideal way to utilize a player like Harvin is if you have a QB who can make changes at the line, and has a broad range of types of plays at his fingertips. Harvin is so dangerous from so many positions, that you just have to find the right matchup to move him to. I'm not saying Geno Smith is that QB, but hopefully MM has enough creativity in him to generate some of those mismatches.
Thank you for that read. That was very insightful, admittedly I don't not hone in on to many other teams schemes outside of the Jets. There are a few exceptions, not many though. So I do appreciate that breakdown from your viewpoint. I was thinking about the offense that we have, you can tell that MM is good at tailoring to the strength of this team. The problem with that, it often times makes us look fairly one dimensional at times because we only do certain things on offense very well. Due to the limited personal at MM disposal. If you've noticed, we have not been a down the field type of team all year, at least a successful down the field type of offense. A lot of people get frustrated with that, for me I understand that we just don't have the players to do that. Decker is a great addition to this team, he's proven that already when healthy, but he's not a guy that will consistently be a deep threat for this offense. Especially when we rely on him to open up so much for other players on this offense. Now that we have a player in Harvin, I think that opens up a whole lot more things that MM can do with this offense. He now has the option to go deep consistently with Harvin, he also will have more opportunity now to go deep to Decker as well, considering the speed of Harvin, opposing defenses will be forced to hone in on him. Which will now allow for Decker to not be primarily responsible for opening up things for his teammates. It can be a shared work load now, which should make things a whole lot better for this team. On paper, we have a pretty good offense now if you really look at it. Geno doesn't have anything to hide behind now, once he gets acclimated with Harvin, it's time to see what this offense can do. I'm encouraged that we got Geno a much better Tavon Austin. I hope that vision that I have within that statement I just made, translates into great things.
I think of the Keyshawn quote- get him the damn ball and lets see He is a wr version of ivory when clicking
I remember watching a few games when he was in Minnesota and he was every bit of a traditional receiver, he made deep plays with the best of them. That game against us in the meadowlands in 2010 he lit us up and don't remember anything gimmicky. He ran routes and blew past us which was that more impressive considering how good our secondary was back then.
Some guys run fast in shorts on a track, a la Stephen Hill, other guys play fast in pads on Sunday. Harvin is the latter. Let's hope he conquers his demons and comes here with something to prove.
Do you think we put him in at PR/KR? Or do you think absolutely not because he is a valuable asset? Having him catch punts and kicks will not only help us get solid returns and field position but it will also save us from having to hold our breaths every time hoping our current returners won't drop it and turn it over. I know I'm not the only Jet fan that isn't immediately excited when we hold a team to a 4th down until after the punt is over and the play is dead.
Yeah, didn't realize he was that physical. Just hope he can stay healthy/stick to hitting guys on the other team and we've got ourselves a nice asset.
Holy SHIT that got me excited. I know that was a highlight reel, but when was the last time the Jets had ANYONE with that type of play making ability? Holmes was pretty good, but not that fast or elusive. Keyshawn? Maybe, but he wasn't THAT fast. Toon or Walker? The fact that I'm going that far back to try and find someone should embarrass the organization. ANSWER - FUCKING NEVER. When Harvin is 100% goddamnit is he a beast. He's small but thick, elusive as all hell, and fucking unbelievably fast. If (and I know it's a big if) he can stay healthy and is just lined up as a traditional WR, he will be our #1. People will have to focus on him and figure out where he is on the field because if you don't he will run right fucking by you. Decker will get open more often (oh and by the way will be getting healthy.) Kerley won't have any focus on him which will be ideal for a pretty darn good slot guy. Amaro will see more open space than he will know what to do with and teams won't just stack the box. Fucking Ivory will have more lanes and punish more DB's which will wearh them down and think twice before putting their body on the line (think cormartie getting out of the way of Sean Greene in San Diego.) Geno his Tayvon Austin and no one will have any excuses for him. Get him the damn ball Geno. Get him the damn ball and let him do his thing. For a 6th round pick to test the waters, this shit couldn't be any better.
I absolutely think they put him in to return kicks. He's on a year to year contract right now with no dead money if they release him. Use him for all it's worth.
