The flaw in your argument is the assumption that our quarterback will be sub par. A healthy Vick with Watkins would be deadly. What if Geno steps his game up and becomes an above average quarterback next season? What if Geno doesn't pan out but we draft a HUGE talent at QB the following year when Watkins is in his second year? You can't use that argument. There are circumstances that change.
I'm pumped!!! I still don't think we have a chance to get him. We would have to give up a lot to get where he will be
I hope you're right and Vick is the starter and healthy but he's on the decline. Geno has a $1mm arm and a 2 cent head. Bad combo. The Jets are too good (yes despite all the holes that are keeping them from being an elite team) to be in the running for a top QB in the next few years. That means if they do move up and get the WR they'll have this year with a rookie (and rookie WR's usually don't do exceptionally well) with lost picks next year and big ???? at QB. If Geno had shown that he's an elite QB I may view a move up differently but not at this stage. The Jets have a huge stretch against top QB's early in the season, I think they're better off waiting to see if a CB drops to them. If they don't get a good CB the season could be over before the bye week.
Again you are relying on circumstances to fall in favor of the bad. What if they fall in favor of the good? You can not sit here and tell me that Geno did not show signs of being a good quarterback. Anyone who watches football saw that. Did he have more bad then good? Yes, he was a rookie. It was expected. If we follow what you are saying then we should just settle for good to average receivers because we may not get good QB play. Why not get a superstar at wide receiver and help Geno grow into a strong quarterback? Say he doesn't pan out. Isn't it nice to have a superstar receiver on your offense while you find another option. I get what you are saying but you can't make that decision on QB. The decision needs to be made based on picks and what you have to give up. Is Watkins worth the lost draft picks as a player himself?
If they're looking to make the team better immediately CB is the pick if there,not moving up for WR. They can still get a very good WR in the 2nd round, why waste picks to move up when you can get get a very good one by being patient? They signed a pretty good one in FA. A top WR isn't going to do anything immediately if they are 1-6 after that long stretch against top QB's. Not that you want to pick in 1st round just for those games but the odds are as a team they are better off getting a CB @ 18 and picking a very good WR in round 2 rather than reaching for a top WR, giving up tons of picks and still having huge holes in the secondary and that's excluding the QB discussion. We'll see how it pans out. I just hope they get better whatever they do.
I don't want to move up from the 18th but trading back into the bottom of the 1st might not be so bad.
This is all based on Milliner not panning out. If Milliner pans out as a first round pick, we are back in business with a shut down corner. Just as you claim there is deep talent at WR, there is also deep talent that will be there later at CB. The problem is, we were spoiled with a hall of fame corner for years. We just need a solid corner that can take the pressure off the front seven. You can have one of those later in the draft. We don't need an elite corner like Revis.
Geezus the jets really cannot afford sacrificing picks. Stay with the conservative approach and go with it. Really can't believe this is even out there. If there is a move to make its downward in this very talented draft.
Nope. In this system a rookie corner does not make us better right away. A rookie WR may have an immediate impact depending on talent, QB play, and picking up the offense.
Revis made us better and they moved up for him..but there is no Revis in this draft and nobody thought there was in that one either.
I see the jets staying at 18 and selecting an OG most important help for a QB is to keep him up. Geno was under too much pressure last year Let colone winters and. 18 fight it out/quote]
Idzik will do BPA for the first 3 or 4 rounds and then look to fill holes thereafter, which is what he did last year. He might move up a few spots if he thinks the player available there is BPA, that player is significantly better than the other players available at that time (or fills a jets need) and that player will likely not be available when the jets pick. Since he doesn't know how the first ten or so picks will work out, I suspect all the discussion of Idzik trading up is a smokescreen. I wouldn't be surprised to see him trade back if the players he really wants aren't available at 18. Remember that last year he took Richardson with his 2nd first round pick and the DL was the strongest unit on a team with many holes. The jets also had glaring holes at WR and TE and they didn't try to address those in the draft last year at all. With regards to taking a need pick on the OL, I suspect that the jets won't take OL unless they think the player is BPA by a significant margin. The jets kept all the OL players they drafted last year on the roster so they must expect that they have the potential to develop into players, otherwise they shouldn't have kept them all.
