Pennington vs Favre

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  1. puddnhead

    puddnhead New Member

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    Pennington is a lot better than Jackson IMO.

    Spoken by someone who has no irons in this fire.
     
  2. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    On the previous TD drive we were still sending extra blitzers and left people in single coverage.

    I don't recall a final drive against Warner that could have won the game for them. There was no similar situation. When we went into the prevent (sending only 3 every down) in the 4th quarter against the Cards they put up 14 points. I'm not sure what your point is.

    Do you disagree that Chad left a lot of points on the field over the years with a weak arm and unwillingness to take chances in the red zone?
     
  3. KOZ

    KOZ Totally Addicted

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    Dude, he's cerebral! "Cerebrality" trumps everything, and makes you forget that your QB is not a realistic threat with a downfield pass (except once every three years with a 20MPH tailwind) or any sort of a slant beyond the hash-marks.

    I'll take a cerebral QB over a gunslinger who takes chances and throws 6TD's in a game anyday...
     
  4. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    ummm, you forgot that he's classy.
     
  5. KOZ

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    Classy, yet when he was benched because the team finally realized that he couldn't consistently deliver he pouted on the sidelines. His displeasure was very apparent to those around him and even us, the mopes watching it on TV.
     
  6. Jetzz

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    I love when we re-paint history and give it a nice new look. Awesome!! :up:
     
  7. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    I shit on penny for anything I think I reasonably can, but to imply that he's not classy is silly. I just hated it when people used that as an argument for him being a good QB for us.

    Classy doesn't earn wins.

    What are you referring to?
     
  8. Italian Seafood

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    I will have to disagree. First of all, accuracy is more important than arm strength in the red zone because you don't need to throw it that far, but you do need to put it in the right spot. Secondly, a QB who takes a lot of chances will throw more picks, turning 7 points into 0, as opposed to one who doesn't that will turn 7 points into 3.

    Having said that, it's really impossible to judge an individual "leaving points on the field" because it's a team game. How many points did Justin McCairens leave on the field last year for both QBs? The O-lineman who got blown up in the NE game this year on 3rd and goal from the 1 left points on the field in that game. A RB who fumbles leaves points on the field. Then you have to account for what happens on the following plays to determine who left what points on the field and how many. It's a vague and pointless argument that can be twisted any kind of way, depending on what player you want to defend or rip.
     
  9. packerbacker1234

    packerbacker1234 New Member

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    How the hell did I miss this thread.

    Anyways, you say take away last year, and 2 seasons prior don't look good? Well, take away the one season three years ago, and last two look PHENOMINAL. Remember, 29 Ints were thrown 3 seasons ago. 29. I can play the same game you are too, my friend, with Brett's recent play.

    You can say what you want about the packers having a better team, but I don't buy it. They are deeper at WR, but they still don't have a threat at TE, the offensive line can't block (run or pass) if their life on the line, and the defense has, yet again, been a big disapointment outside of a 3 or 4 standout players.

    Maybe on paper it looks that way to you - but the Packers last year had a crappy roster. Favre had no time in the pocket most of the season,a dn they couldn't run the ball for 10 weeks. Say what you want, but Favre elivated his play by eliminating the feeling that every play has to be a score, and instead took the underneath on blitzes to lte the WR's get YAC.
     
  10. greenwhite&nogold

    greenwhite&nogold New Member

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    Figures don't lie, but liars figure.

    How the hell do you say "take away last year from Favre" to make Pennington's numbers look better and then Pawn it off as proof that Pennington has better numbers.

    I think you said it best yourself...
    "During the last three years Pennington has thrown 29 TDs and 28 Ints. Favre has thrown 66 TDs and 62 Ints." If you just look at the ratio, it's about even. However, Favre has nearly twice as many TDs/year then Pennington.

    Why am I even debating this? waste of my time. Favre is better than Penny, end of story.
     

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