Pennington Haters are Unreal

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  1. Kris 15

    Kris 15 Well-Known Member

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    Hey, I can do that too.

    It's not the D's fault Chad throws floaters.It's not the running game's fault Chad does not challenge a defense. It's not Nugent's fault Chad threw 2 picks in the 4th quarter.

    Chad did not play well today. That the special teams, running game and defense (who BTW only allowed 10 points until Chad threw that pick that put their offense on the 25 yard line) were disappointing as well does not let him off the hook. Does he deserve all of the blame? No. Does he deserve a large portion of it? Yes. If you can't see that, you're just as bad as those using Chad as the scapegoat.
     
  2. 3rdAnd15Draw

    3rdAnd15Draw Well-Known Member

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    His first INT put the Bills in position to score the winning TD. His second INT took away any chance the Jets had of tying the game with a long FG. If that's not losing the game I'm not sure what is.

    I'm not even going to go into the rest of that pathetic last drive before the INT.
     
  3. ollie

    ollie Right Wing NutJob

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    It's just silly to argue for chad anymore... he almost got Cotch killed again and he just can't throw... it's over... time for the kid
     
  4. jetsaholic1094

    jetsaholic1094 New Member

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    That's funny, because I thought the Jets had a pretty good shot at getting in FG range to tie the game at the end.
     
  5. Kris 15

    Kris 15 Well-Known Member

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    Enter pick #2.
     
  6. NYJets38

    NYJets38 New Member

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    The 2 interceptions were terrible. They were one of the biggest reasons we lost the game, maybe the biggest.

    If you ignore those 2 picks, I thought he played great. I know that you can't ignore the 2 picks, my only point is that if he hadn't thrown them, some thought he still didn't play that well, and I disagree.
     
  7. Beamen

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    Take away both his picks, and his other 4 incompletions, and what do you have?

    27 dump offs, and 5 legitimate passes (over 10 yards)....

    He didn't play great..... If people watch the game with the volume off (i.e, ignore the stupid commentators) they wouldn't think Chad was great.... But people hear '14 straight completions' and that sounds great....
     
  8. Imagesrdecieving

    Imagesrdecieving Well-Known Member

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    So you think unleashing the dinks and dunks is "opening up the offense"?
    If that is the case - that is the best argument I've heard so far to bench Pennington.
     
  9. AlioTheFool

    AlioTheFool Spiveymaniac

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    That's just silly. Ignore those two picks and he had a good game? How do you ignore them? It's not like they were on plays where the WR was out of position or the CB just outplayed the play. Chad threw both of them, without any assistance.

    What you're saying is like saying, "Well, we were up 3-0, two outs, bottom of the ninth, but then he walked three guys to load the bases, then gave up a grand slam. But if you ignore the walks and the home run, he pitched great!"

    No, Chad did not play great, nor did he play good, nor did he even play average. He played poorly. I was a Chad evangelist, but I'm sick of losing. Chad can't get us where we want to be, that's obvious now.
     
  10. xxedge72x

    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    The Jets opened up the offense after the 2 minute warning in the second quarter. Pennington started attacking downfield with those passes to Cotchery. That is what I mean by opening up the offense.

    My complaint is that the dink and dunk happens way too often. I'm sick of it.
     
  11. AllHackettsSuck

    AllHackettsSuck Well-Known Member

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    Did you really think that was an effective 2-minnute drill?
     
  12. johnnysd

    johnnysd Well-Known Member

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    Ah....but it IS partly Chad's fault our running game sucks.
     
  13. ollie

    ollie Right Wing NutJob

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    Amen brother... I'm now a Chad Atheist
     
  14. JetBlue

    JetBlue Well-Known Member

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    that is ludicrous. the only thing that matters at the end of a game when you have a chance to score is what you do in that situation. nothing that happened prior to that is relevant.

    example: the Defense could give up 55 points. but if the score is 55-50 with 1 second left, and Chad Pennington misses a wide open wide receive in the endzone for the winning TD, you can't excuse that by saying if the D had only given up 48 points missing the TD wouldn't matter. what ifs don't matter, only what happens. and when you have a chance at the end and blow it, that is what happened and what's matters.

    yes, if Buffalo only scored 13 points, we would have won 14 to 13. but they didn't, they scored 17 and we had the ball at the end with enough time to at least get into FG position. Chad couldn't get us into range. that isn't anyone's fault but his.

    I like Chad, and 10 win seasons every other year are enjoyable. but at some point I'd like to see a 12 to 13 win season, and he just doesn't posses the ability to do so IMO.
     
  15. ihatethedolphins3

    ihatethedolphins3 New Member

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    our running game will be better once we have the ability to strecth the field. Opposing defenes play us like we are in the red zone the whole time thats y we never have any room for runs or short passes, bc cornerbacks are sitting 10yds away from the line of scrimmage, the only way we get big plays is if we break a bunch of tackles or there is a blown assignment, this offenses is miserable to watch and i want a change, even tho i love pennington we need to see what the kids got, bc if it turns out he sucks we need to havbe a gameplan for the offseason, and who knows maybe he will pull out a tom brady like spark, we have talent maybe a spark is what we need
     
  16. xxedge72x

    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    So what you're saying is that everything that happened prior is completely irrelevant? You're saying that the ONLY reason the Jets lost is because of Chad? Get real!

    By your logic, taking Chad out and putting Clemens in is enough to fix the entire team. That is bologna. I want Clemens to start playing as much as anyone else right now, but to pin the loss on Chad alone is nuts. This TEAM has problems. Chad is one of them, but he is not the only one.
     
  17. OSUJetFan89

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    Putting all of the blame on Chad is unfair since our D looked awful, but i hate how if the team is down, there is no chance for a quick score since Chad is throwing these 5 yard routes. His slow arcing passes are just going to lead to more ints and our receivers getting clocked
     
  18. red75bronco

    red75bronco Well-Known Member

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    In my opinion, this is spot on. Especially the play calling.
     
  19. red75bronco

    red75bronco Well-Known Member

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    Cornerbacks do not stop the run and Safeties normally line up at 12 yards. There was definately room underneath today by the result of all the circle routs by the backs. What I don't understand is why do we throw so many out patterns? Penny throws good corner routes and crossing routes, look at he one to Cotch today. He can make that throw. It is shorter than the 10 yard outs.
     
  20. CYensePHIction

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    still, Chad did make mistakes in this game and although I like him, I think Mangini has some decision making to do. The bills are not the best team out there and if we cant beat them we are in deep trouble...
     

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