Penn State scandal thread (merged 3x)

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  1. BIG COUNTRY

    BIG COUNTRY Well-Known Member

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    Id love to beat the shit out of this creep. I still dont kno how the wide receiver coach didnt when he caught him.
     
  2. JetBlue

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    but, but, he told him to stop. "now, coach, knock that off, you know you aren't supposed to have your dick in little boy's asses. silly coach. Can I keep my job?"
     
  3. NYGalPal

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    CBS is a joke with their interview with Mike Mcqueary. I mean come on.
     
  4. Digetydog

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    They falsely hyped the story. To call it an "interview" would be generous, it was more of a long "no comment." Shame on CBS>
     
  5. GQMartin

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    I just assumed 60 Minutes got the interview.

    Then I saw it and I laughed.


    I still hope 60 Minutes covers this.
     
  6. JetBlue

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    the sad thing is even if he gets convicted because of his fame he will be isolated from the general population so he wont even get the bubba treatment in prison
     
  8. swifty_0

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    I'm not really familiar with NCAA rules and regulations...but why hasn't any decision come down from them against Penn State?

    It's clear all these people in the institution knew what was going on and didn't do anything about it.

    How is giving players money WORSE than this?
     
  9. JetsFan56

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    Not saying the NCAA won't come down with something but I think it's more of a criminal matter as opposed to a NCAA violations i.e. player eligibility, grades being fixed, booster $$ etc..
     
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  11. GordonGecko

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    "The motto at most schools is no child left behind, but at Penn State it's no child's behind left unmolested"
     
  12. Barry the Baptist

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    They came down pretty hard on Baylor Basketball when they covered up a murder. I don't remember all the specifics of that case but to me this is why the NCAA exists, not to slap a school with scholarship losses or postseason bans when a coach buys a kid cheeseburgers or shit like that.
     
  13. Digetydog

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    Actually, the NCAA has limited to no jurisdication on situations like this.

    In the Baylor incident, Baylor was over the scholarship limit. To get around that, the Coach, Dave Bliss, paid for Dennehy (the victim) and another player's tuition under the table. After Dennehy got murdered by a teamate, Bliss tried to cover up the illegal payments to Dennehy by painting him as a drug dealer. The NCAA punished Baylor for the NCAA Rules violations, not the murder and its coverup.

    Eventually, the people responsible will have to answer for their behavior, but it will likely by criminal prosecutions and by civil lawsuits against them.
     
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    A Discipline Problem: Paterno Fought Penn State Official Over Punishment of Players

    Started the article..check out link for the whole article

    STATE COLLEGE, Pa.—Legendary Penn State football coach Joe Paterno clashed repeatedly with the university's former chief disciplinarian over how harshly to punish players who got into trouble, internal emails suggest, shedding new light on the school's effort to balance its reputation as a magnet for scholar-athletes with the demands of running a nationally dominant football program.

    In an Aug. 12, 2005, email to Pennsylvania State University President Graham Spanier and others, Vicky Triponey, the university's standards and conduct officer, complained that Mr. Paterno believed she should have "no interest, (or business) holding our football players accountable to our community standards. The Coach is insistent he knows best how to discipline his players…and their status as a student when they commit violations of our standards should NOT be our concern…and I think he was saying we should treat football players different from other students in this regard."

    The confrontations came to a head in 2007, according to one former school official, when six football players were charged by police for forcing their way into a campus apartment that April and beating up several students, one of them severely. That September, following a tense meeting with Mr. Paterno over the case, she resigned her post, saying at the time she left because of
    "philosophical differences."

    In a statement Monday, Dr. Triponey said: "There were numerous meetings and discussions about specific and pending student discipline cases that involved football players," which she said included "demands" to adjust the judicial process for football players. The end result, she said, was that football players were treated "more favorably than other students accused of violating the community standards as defined by the student code of conduct."

    Mr. Paterno's lawyer, Wick Sollers, said through a spokesman that "the allegations that have been described are out of context, misleading and filled with inaccuracies….Penn State's record of producing successful student athletes under coach Paterno's guidance is unquestioned."

    Mr. Spanier didn't respond to requests for comment. A Penn State spokesman declined to comment.

    For years, Penn State's football program, which has won two national championships, was regarded as a model. Its players graduated at rates far above average, and it is one of only four major-conference athletic programs never to have been sanctioned for major violations by the sport's governing body, the NCAA. In recent weeks, a sex-abuse scandal involving Jerry Sandusky, a longtime assistant coach of Mr. Paterno's, has badly tarnished that reputation. Mr. Sandusky has said he is innocent.

    Messrs. Paterno and Spanier have been ousted from their jobs in the wake of the scandal. Athletic Director Tim Curley was indicted for perjury in the case and has been removed from his job and placed on administrative leave. Mr. Curley has denied any wrongdoing. A representative for Mr. Curley said he had no comment on any email traffic, but that, as athletic director, he tried to make sure all student athletes were treated equally with regard to the code of conduct.

    On Monday, Penn State's Special Committee of the Board of Trustees said at a news conference in Philadelphia that former FBI director Louis Freeh will lead the investigation into the school's handling of child sexual-abuse allegations.

    Penn State, like many universities, saw its endowment swell in recent decades, to about $1.7 billion, thanks to the contributions of loyal alumni. Sports brought in $106.6 million in revenue in the school's 2010 fiscal year.

    Students at Penn State are subject to a code of conduct administered by the office of judicial affairs—an arm of the student-affairs department. The office can open investigations of any incident on or off campus. It can order a range of punishments, including, if it sees fit, expulsion.

    When Dr. Triponey arrived from the University of Connecticut in 2003 to become vice president of student affairs, she was charged with overseeing the department that enforced the code.

    Just before she arrived, Penn State faced an episode in which Mr. Paterno had decided to let cornerback Anwar Phillips play in a bowl game, even though he had been charged with sexually assaulting a woman and had been temporarily expelled from school. Mr. Paterno declined to field questions about the incident at the time. Mr. Spanier referred to it as a case of "miscommunication." Mr. Phillips was acquitted of the charge in a subsequent trial.

    In 2004, after several incidents involving football players, Mr. Paterno told the Allentown Morning Call newspaper that the players weren't misbehaving any more than usual, but that such news was now more public. "I can go back to a couple guys in the '70s who drove me nuts," he said. "The cops would call me, and I used to put them in bed in my house and run their rear ends off the next day. Nobody knew about it. That's the way we handled it."

    In the spring of 2005, Dr. Triponey's office suspended Penn State offensive lineman E.Z. Smith and a teammate for the summer after they were caught shooting arrows through an off-campus apartment wall, according to news reports at the time. In an email that August to Dr. Triponey, Penn State athletic director Curley said that Mr. Paterno was "frustrated" because Mr. Smith couldn't participate in preseason practice.

    In August 2005, Mr. Spanier, the university president, suggested that Dr. Triponey meet with Mr. Paterno. Athletic director Curley, assistant athletic Director Fran Ganter and Joe Puzycki, the assistant to Dr. Triponey, also attended the Aug. 11 meeting, according to two people knowledgeable about the meeting. Mr. Paterno loudly criticized Dr. Triponey at the meeting for meddling, these people say.

    The following day, Dr. Triponey sent an email to Messrs. Spanier, Curley and Puzycki summarizing the meeting and sharing her thoughts and concerns. In the email, which was reviewed by The Wall Street Journal, she said that football players were getting in trouble at a "disproportionate rate" from other students, often for serious acts. She said her staff had tried to work with the athletic department, sometimes sharing information, but that whenever her department initiated an investigation into a football player, the phones lit up. "The calls and pleas from coaches, Board members, and others when we are considering a case are, indeed, putting us in a position that does treat football players differently and with greater privilege."

    Dr. Triponey also wrote that Mr. Paterno believed that the school's code of conduct should not apply to any incidents that take place off campus—that those should be handled by police—and they shouldn't be allowed to affect anyone's status as a student.

    "Coach Paterno would rather we NOT inform the public when a football player is found responsible for committing a serious violation of the law and/or our student code," she wrote, "despite any moral or legal obligation to do so."

    Dr. Triponey ended her note by asking Mr. Curley and Mr. Spanier if these were accurate impressions of Mr. Paterno's views—and whether they shared them.

    Mr. Curley's response, also reviewed by the Journal, was sent three days later and was copied to Mr. Spanier. "I think your summary is accurate," it said.

    Mr. Curley, who had played for Mr. Paterno's team, explained what he said was the coach's "frustrations with the system." Mr. Paterno, he wrote, felt that "it should be his call if someone should practice and play in athletics." He said Mr. Paterno felt the school had "overreacted" by deciding to allow reporting of off-campus incidents, and that the NCAA had gone "overboard" with new rules on academic-eligibility requirements.

    In an email to Mr. Spanier on Sept. 1, Dr. Triponey wrote of Mr. Paterno: "I do not support the way this man is running our football program. We certainly would not tolerate this behavior in our students so I struggle with how we tolerate it in our coach."

    That same fall, Dr. Triponey's office suspended Dan Connor, a Penn State linebacker, who had been accused of making harassing calls to a retired assistant coach. Shortly after the suspension was handed down, Mr. Paterno ordered the player to suit up, according to a person familiar with the matter. Dr. Triponey informed the player that if he suited up for practice, he would be in violation of his suspension and could face expulsion. Mr. Connor says he recalled being suspended only for games, not practice.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204443404577052073672561402.html?mod=wsj_share_tweet
     
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  17. GordonGecko

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    So wait, Peterno isn't going to be the next Pope anymore??
     
  18. kbgreen

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    Why would he want to be pope? he was the KING! And while it lasted -It was good to be KING!
     
  19. kbgreen

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    So basically a school culture where JoePA had his way and he made it difficult for anyone who did not toe the line. Is it me or is that just the kind of environment where a cover-up could happen.
     
  20. GordonGecko

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    That shit clearly went to his head. Who has time to worry about little kids getting ass raped by sick fucks when you're king of a college campus, right?
     

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