Of course at 4 million it will be interesting to see if he sicks. That's a lot of money if he has slowed down as much as the Jets think he has.
Nobody gives a flying shit if he is a great guy. We care if he is great at building a top level roster, which he is.
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thats not what he got. he got 4. therefore your tanny bashing is bs. if he offered him 4 mil everyone here would be whining like you, except it would be justified by a terrible front office move. and offering 2 is out of the question when double is on the table.
I'm glad we got Ellis. I'm not a fan of Roth. I think he's a JAG and not worth the money. It does seem that you didn't want Ellis back. Has he slipped that much?
Not going to start a new thread because there are enough already. This does not really follow the flow but I want to get it down anyways. Not putting together a legitimate offer for Ellis is a huge mistake. The was out best lineman last year the way I watched the games. Sure Pouha looked good, DeVito came on etc etc. To not keep this guy around is something that I think we are going to regret. The guy was a pro's pro. He never had any real issues during his decade here, (I dont count the marijuana as a real issue) he kept his mouth shut and he performed always. Teams that have been successful in the past with the 3-4 have a stable of Dlinemen. With the cap room that we have, the way this guy has produced, and what it would meant to have Wilk and Kenrick learn from this guy for a couple years - I see so many positives that out weigh the negatives...of which I cant see any. How we did not offer this guy 5m over 2 years rather than an insulting vet min. He was out best linemen in the playoffs by a mile! I dont usually question the FO in this new era because they have done a very good job and have been aggressive when needs be. This one is a mistake. The Cotchery move, I dont understand, but Ellis rattles me. Devito, pouha, ropati, wilk, k ellis, .....why not S Ellis? What a good looking group that would have been. It only irks me more that we have to play him twice a year.
If the Jets offered him 2 million a week ago, instead of this low ball BS offer, he's a Jet today. That's my opinion.
Mike Tannenbaum is the reason why this team is competitive. Without him we wouldn't have Brick, Mangold, Revis, Harris, Sanchez, Greene, or any of the other young talented players that make this team a force to be reckoned with. No one gives a shit about Chris Baker or any of the other players you mentioned because they don't make championship caliber teams. If you want a GM that overpays mediocre players you shouldn't be a fan of this team.
Anyone who is involved in negotiations like that is going to be disliked by some people. GMs, agents, owners, players...negotiations lead to hurt feelings and accusations on all sides. Too bad not everyone gets that.