I read it. The problem is your interpretation. I told you what my interpretation was and labeled it as that. But you're too obtuse to see it.
You can't literally be that stupid. Your own definition. Bribery The offering, giving, receiving, or soliciting of something of value [signed jerseys, signed footballs, signed shoes, tickets, cash, etc.] for the purpose of influencing the action of an official [the ballboy/attendants] in the discharge of his or her public or legal duties [inflating footballs, or rather deflating them once they've been weighed by the game officials]. A bribe can consist of immediate cash or of personal favors, a promise of later payment, or anything else the recipient views as valuable [signed jerseys, signed footballs, signed shoes, tickets, cash, etc.]. Let me put it in a way you might be able to understand. Have you ever promised your kids that if they eat their dinner that you will reward them with ice cream afterward? That's a bribe. Don't be a literal ass to defend your hero Brady. _
Yeah, I've done this with him before, it's amusing. Like playing chess with a 5 year old. It gets boring after a while. _
I did back Tebow, Sterling, Idzik and even Brady now to some degree. But not in a blanket group for various reasons. To me out of all these people the one who got the worst deal is Sterling. When they start finding tapes of what people say in their own home under private circumstances we're in big trouble as a society.
Any other fan supporting Tom when you root for another team should have their head examined. Once a fraud, always a fraud. Here is a good summary from another fan site.
Sure I can be that stupid. The word bribe for what Brady did is an exaggeration and your interpretation of the meaning of the word. You act like it's a 100% no-brainer when in fact it's open to interpretation. There was no mention of the word bribe in the report. Hard to have a logical discussion with you. It's as usual just a bunch of name calling if you don't get your way. I don't care. I've made my point, if you disagree fine.
I like how this thread went to talking about what discipline Brady and the Pats might receive to semantics over the interpretation of a word. Also, for the record, it was a bribe. Clear as day. And those are just the ones we know happened. I'm sure when Tommy boy was calling and speaking to Jastremski and brought him into the QB room for the first time ever it wasn't to discuss the weather. I'm sure they were either A) getting their story straight or B) Brady was offering to pay Jastremski off to take the fall. Probably a bit of both. There is literally no other reason for them to meet and talk as frequently as they did. And if ANYONE says he was just trying to help out a guy going through a stressful time that person should be ignored by every single poster here as it's clear they have zero interest in a legitimate conversation.
Brady offered items of value to a ballboy so he would illegally deflate footballs. What possible interpretation of the word "bribe" does that not fit? Seriously? I copied and pasted the definition right there for you. In the context of this discussion, how is what Brady did NOT considered a bribe? Because the ballboy wasn't the Foreign Minister of the Interior for Nigeria? Are you going to be that literal, that intentionally obtuse to defend your hero Brady? _
If he was paying Jastremski off to take the fall it is bribery. But there is no proof of this to my knowledge You can't just say "probably" "I think" etc. We can as fans. Sure you have every right to say what you think happened. Interpret the facts. But you can't like Stokes say it is incontrovertible.
Wow. The "bribe" had nothing to do with whether he asked anyone to take a fall for him. The giving of value by Brady to the ballboy to circumvent the rules and illegally deflate the balls was the bribe. If you are at work and a vendor or a contractor or sub or customer asks you to do something that is illegal, against company policy, against public policy, is anti-competitive or otherwise for cash or something of value, that is bribery. Not the coverup. The giving of value to influence the illegal act. Incontrovertible. _
If you paid people to lie and misrepresent the facts then it's a bribe. Where does it say Brady did that: told Jastremsky not to talk or incriminate him. I didn't see that anywhere. If you have that info please post. IMO it's not a bribe to give him a gratuity (which is what the report calls it) to do services even against the NFL rules (which is not illegal under the law but is under NFL rules).
It's a freaking bribe dude. Read your OWN definition. He didn't tip the guy after the fact for doing a good job circumventing the rules. He promised him something of value so he WOULD circumvent the rules. Holy shit. _
He tipped him for doing his job which included deflating the balls. So to me a reason for punishing the organization. Hard to believe (for me) that this was a secret agreement between Brady and these two guys. The Equipment Mgr (who is their boss) was also exonerated. How could he not know about this esp if his subordinates were doing it. Doesn't he know what his staff are doing with their time esp on game day. There should be ways they can show complicity in the organization. Even if not directly to Kraft or to Belichick. So what I'm doing here is strictly conjecture. I'm connecting the dots but labeling it as that. Unlike you who claims to know it all. You don't!
