Patriots not Revis' first choice -- Jets were

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  1. Big Blocker

    Big Blocker Well-Known Member

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    Since I do not recall using the word "force" or "forced", I don't understand what you are going on at length here about.
     
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    Bah, I saw it Abysmal's post and thought you also said that, but you said required, so you are correct. My bad.
     
  3. Joe Willie White Shoes

    Joe Willie White Shoes Well-Known Member

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    You Revis lovers need to give it up already. There is no question that he is a selfish player who only cared about his contract over everything else. He is two years and two teams removed from the Jets and has not been worth the money he was pais, let alone what he thinks he is worth, since 2009. He is a major distraction. He is no longer a Jet and is unlikely to be a Jet ever again. He burned that bridge to ashes. I'd much rather have the cap space to pay our young talent who want to be here, do not hold out, and play more important positions. When you pay Revis $12-16 million a year, it significantly limits a team's ability to fill out a deep roster. The Revis era is over, thankfully and mercifully. Can we move on now?
     
  4. Denny

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    The Jets Patriots saga continues. Ty Laws revenge. We'll not exactly but if the shoe fits. If Revis did not hold out he would not have gone to Tampa. He was Rex's favorite son. But his hammy issue was well documented before his knee blew. Those hammy's are lingering. Now that he can actually run he should pull it again. Unless B.B. realizes this and puts him on a pitch count. He will undoubtedly make plays. But he is on his own path now. Here's to C2K bowling him over in open space. : )
     
  5. Ralebird

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    Because NJ.com says ESPN reported it? That won't go far in court.
     
  6. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I wasn't crediting the source, just the report. If you can confirm the doubt, then do so. Legitimately.
     
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    That wasn't really the point I was trying to make, I was talking more about corner salary in general, but I do honestly believe Revis realized the error of his ways. First of all, he's made enough money now to put his grandchildren's grandchildren through college. If he wanted to make more money he could have played for another crappy team, but he took a paycut to play for the Patriots. I hate that and hope he chokes when we face him, but it is what it is.
     
  8. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    JWWS. You are clearly playing the homer role. I don't blame you, since he is playing for a hated rival, but I think you are in for a huge disappointment. I know I am. He's one of the best players to ever don a Jets uniform, and he is becoming healthy. We are in for a really bad time in terms of receiving, unless Marty can put him in a place where he doesn't matter. And that is difficult. He's the best, no matter what a handful of zone corners say. Prove me wrong if you think otherwise.

    I think the best way for the Jets to beat that Pats defense with Revis in tow is to run the fuck out of the ball and abuse their weak lbs and safeties. Pats fans think the return of Wilfork is the answer, but the Jets really need to play the hell out of the inside game, punch them in the face with their own fist.

    BB tried to rule the world by owning inside the hash marks, it's time to teach him that he isn't the only one that can do it. He's gotten his face smashed in before, that's why he loves to hate the Jets.

    They did it to us. Now it's time to show them how it is done.
     
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    It wasn't a report - it was a report of a report. No names, no quotes, no nothing.
     
  10. Big Blocker

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    I highly recommend putting that worthless, obnoxious, gratuitously aggressive bore on ignore.

    Then you won't have that problem, or several others.
     
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    again, don't confuse wanting to get paid what he is worth w/ being selfish. Selfish would be retiring over a restaurant.
     
  12. Big Blocker

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    All NFL players play for the money.

    I hate the Pats, but they are a well run organization. They think he's worth what they are paying him. You know better? How?

    What is the evidence Revis has ever been a distraction to the way the team plays on the field?

    Most recognize Cb as a significantly important position, especially in a Rex Ryan D. Again, if it is so unimportant, why is he one of the highest paid players on the Pats this year?

    With the cap space the Jets have available this year, how would signing him have prevented them from making what moves they have?

    Revis was certainly the Jets best player since Curtis Martin, if not even better than him. He left the team under controversial circumstances. At present the Jets are very unsettled at Cb, in large measure because he is no longer here. I think it is fair to say the Jets have not really replaced him. The decision to move him was made by people still in charge, who have not yet produced a winner, and who are fair game for assessing their performance. Part of such assessment certainly has to do with Revis and the moves they made, and did not make, in connection with him.

    Not every Jet fan agrees with your position. The Revis move will continue to be debated whether you like it or not.
     
  13. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Isn't it funny when you hate what you are?
     
  14. BrowningNagle

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    With Joe Haden, Richard Sherman and now Patrick Peterson all signing massive long term deals, you think Revis is wishing he did things differently here?

    I mean as far as after his injury- prior to the 2013 season. Idzik made the decision to trade him, and they can talk about it being a philosophical decision, but I really don't think so. Idzik values the corner position. Revis was wanting a new deal then, the Jets were up against the cap and lining up for a rebuild, that had to be part of it... The Jets didn't have to trade him at the time and Revis didn't have to ask for the new deal at the time...

    Seems to me if he just kept his mouth shut or was a little more patient and played out the 2013 season on that original contract. And had a solid bounce back year. Now that the Jets have more cap room he'd be in line for a similar long term deal here like Haden, Sherman and Peterson...

    Instead he got that deal in tampa that wasn't guaranteed and we all saw how that worked out. Now he's playing on another short term contract and will be close to 30 for his next contract. He's probably looking at a career now of short term contracts put together. I think he is getting bad advice from those representing him.
     
  15. Big Blocker

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    Ftr I have never said I think Revis's agents have done a great job, and there is merit to your points. But the relationship between him and the Jets consisted of two parties. On the Jets' side, it is far from clear that they handled it right.

    The fact is the Jets did not even try to work something out with Revis as they entered the off season last year. We cannot say there was nothing they could have done. We can't even say there is nothing reasonable they could have done. We also can't say any such effort would certainly or even likely have failed.

    I think what happened is Woody took a personal animosity to Revis and his agents from prior negotiations, in which it was far from clear the Jets handled them reasonably. Remember all the contradictory words coming out of Tanny? Woody did not seem to accept that part of the problem in past dealings was coming from the FO.

    But I do not think Revis's agents should be absolved of all responsibility, either.
     

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