Patriots acquire Haynesworth

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  1. BK_Jetsfan

    BK_Jetsfan New Member

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    I guess this is my point, and I'll defer to your knowledge as a Pats fan of their defensive tendencies. But in this generation of me-first athletes, dollar signs tend to control. Asshats like Haynesworth play when they're looking for a new contract (not sure what his contract will be for the Pats), but at the end of the day he's still an asshole.

    You'll disagree with me on this I'm sure, but I think Bellicheats reputation of putting "bad boys" in check is overblown. Dillon was never an asshole with the Bengals. He was always a good player, he just hated playing on a shitty team (who wouldn't), and he said it. But he wasn't an ass like people in hindsight have portrayed him. And Randy's entire career has been him shifting from hot to cold in a cyclic pattern. I don't think the coach affects Randy, I think he affects himself. So Hayneworth, who's been a dick his entire career, I just don't see him changing for the Pats, unless he is going to be a free agent the following year.

    And as for the D question, like I said, I'm not sure how often you guys run different formations, but someone observed he'd play DE in the 3-4, and I think THAT is where his asshole colors will show, because he is such a petulent fucking child that I can see him saying "put me on the field ONLY when you run 4-3" which, you're right, for what they gave up I guess is good.

    What are his numbers? Are they going to have to pay him a shitload thanks to Snyderbrenner?
     
  2. JfaulkNYJ

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    If he was expecting a trade before the lockout started he could be, if he wasnt..hell no.
     
  3. Miamipuck

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    They had to do something to improve that defense. Might be a good move, might not. There is little risk though..........
     
  4. strngplyr

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    Due something like 5 million this year that isn't guarunteed money because he skipped minicamps last year. So it's basically a 5th rounder 2 years from now and no salary commitment. He also has to pass his physical for the deal to go down i'm hearing, just because a trade is reported doesn't make it official, nothing done til friday that goes on record as proven by Brandon Stokley agreeing to go to WAS then backing out to go to Seattle because WAS was bringing in too many WR's.
     
  5. KWJetsFan

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    There is risk to this, but it's a risk worth taking for the Pats. If he plays well, he, Wilfork and Warren can do some damage.
     
  6. gopats88

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    I agree with you in that Albert will bring a new low to this team in terms of work ethic and personal responsibilty. However, I don't think that B.B. is really the difference maker in question. It is team leadership as a whole.

    The redskins basically mortgaged their whole franchise to bring him there, which left him knowing that he had the power to bully everyone around once he got there. He should know that if he brings that attitude to NE, he will be outbullied in seconds by Wilfork, Warren, Crumpler, Mankins, etc. and that Pats management will not hesitate to get rid of him.

    As far as I can tell, the guy has never taken responsibility for himself in any facet of his life, so I am not sure how this will work out. The only reason this trade is worth it is because we have so little invested.

    Also, I have heard that his complaints about the 3-4 were actually more focused towards playing nose (where he was basically occupying space rather than generating pressure). IDK if this is accurate, but if so it could bode well for him being involved in our schemes (since we obviously have Wilfork).
     
  7. Phokus

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    FYI, the Pats played with 4 down linemen something like 60% of the time last season. I could see them upping that even more if Haynesworth is in shape/motivated.
     
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    Good move for the Pats, it could be a huge reward.


    If the Jets acquired Haynesworth we would be hearing "another thug goes to the Jets"...but with the Patriots, nothing.
     
  9. 73klecko

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    I think you are spot on. It's bittersweet when your team acquires a low life like this but what are you gonna do, not stick with them? This is what I fear about acquiring Moss.

    I think this is a great pick up for the Pats. Kind of speaks to Brace being a bust though, no?
     
  10. BK_Jetsfan

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    Shit, I forgot about Brace. I thought he's be a superstar. But if what GoPats said is true, then Brace still fits as nose and Haynesworth plays end. Who knows.
     
  11. gopats88

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    not really, if this year is anything like last season we need about 15 different DL who can start, lol

    More realistically, I think that AH is seen as an immediate and drastic upgrade to our pass rush. The coaching staff might still have confidence in Brace to fill an eventual starting role, but Haynesworth definitely has more potential for immediate domination.

    Or it could reflect hesitation in Ty Warren's immediate return as a starter. IDK, there are a million different ??? and possibilities, but as far I'm concerned more big guys can't be a bad thing after last year's disaster at DL.
     
  12. Rockefella

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    It's the complete opposite. Since the Patriots signed him it's because Belichick is a genius and it's a steal and he will reform him into a saint and he will be an all-pro again and he will fuck Brady in the ass.
     
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    So today we can equate a Patriots 5th round pick = Ham sandwich.

    Yummmm.....
     
  14. JetRizing89

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    hopefully he is a cancer in the lockeroom
     
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    fuck the pats
     
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  16. CJLang

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    Possibly, but Moss and Dillon were both cancer's and Belichik got planty out of both.

    Haynesworth played well for Fischer because they played to his strengths. The Redskins stuck him at NT. You don't think Belichik hasn't already talked to Albert and given him the scenario for how they're gonna use him. He will be a pass rusher for the Pats.

    That said, he is a scumbag and the move could blow up on the Pats, but I've been drinking the Belichik kool-aid for awhile and think he'll be a monster for them.
     
  17. CJLang

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    The skins stuck him at NT. The pats will use him at end in bith 3-4 and 4-3 situations, and likely not every down.
     
  18. CJLang

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    He won't mess that locker room. The Skins had no leadership in the room. The Pats have plenty. If he is a big problem he'll be gone quick. His guaranteed money has all been payed by the skins.

    My guess is Belichik probably has him all fired up already showig him ways he's going to use him to get to the QB.
     
  19. Vorrecht

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    This move is genius! Albert Haynesworth doesn't want to play in a 3-4 but that won't matter because Bill Belichick is the Patriots head coach! And you know who's their QB?! Tom Brady! I know he plays offense and has nothing to do with the defensive line but his wife is Giselle fucking Bundchen! Super Bowl! Super Bowl! Super Bowl!

    /troll
     
  20. CJLang

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    Not really, though he could still prove to be one. The Pats only have 6 DL under contract I believe (Warren, Wilfork, Wright, Pryor, Brace, Deaderick) and they cut Stroud, and they do alot of situational substitutions. Wilfork doen't play every down and I expect Albert won't either (and I'm not referring to when he's on the field hopefully..)
     
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