Parcells regrets anything that makes him look bad. Leaving the Pats like that and having them turn into a dynasty later on makes him look like he was incapable of doing what Belichick did.
since he doesn't seem to have the ability to win a SB since he left the Giants, I'd actually welcome that Idea.
Bill Parcells can suck my bag in Macy’s window on Christmas while I punched him in his fat bitch tits.
Thats where my point is. Any half decent coach could have done it. Early 90s weren't that bad. Rich Kotite sucked it up and Parcells pretty much took over a team ALREADY WITH POTENTIAL. The fact that we sucked in the mid 90s, we did end up with Keyshawn, a vital piece to Parcells success while Parcells had nothing to do with drafting him. How do you suck at drafting, yet be considered a great coach is beyond me. You can not build a team without having a few excellent drafts. If anything, his 3 terrible drafts and one avg draft pushed this franchise a year or two behind. Had he drafted well in those 4 years, we would have had more than 1 player still playing on this team. Mental toughness? What mental toughness? Ghost did shit and I think Rex does a better job of mental toughness and motivation. It hasn't helped Ghost so it has to be the talent, or lack of. Maybe he did bring mental toughness, but not the talent, not him. You just can not be great without doing an excellent job in the draft. Parcells was an average coach, period!
Parcells definitely picked quite a few colossal busts but he also had a few steals like Ryan Young and Jason Ferguson, both of whom were 7th round picks. Also, how can you not give him credit for Free Agent signings like Vinny, Curtis Martin and a number of role players like Rick Lyle and Anthony Pleasant who were great values. I agree that Parcells was far from perfect as a GM and he did leave us at the altar. But to say that the Jets would have been successful without him is just plain wrong. The Jets were coming off probably the 2 most pathetic seasons in franchise history...and that's saying a lot!
Yup. One wonders if all the Parcells bashers aren't all well under 30 years old. You have to go all the way back to the mid 80's to find a Jets Squad prior to Parcells that is on a level with the current state of affairs. (O'Brien and the 10-1 start) Also in the above should be... A division Championship. And the 2002 playoff run. Beat N.E.,Beat Favre, Hang a 41-0 Horsecollar on Mannings Colts.. Probably the three best weeks of jets football, from the 1960's till this year.
So, you think that bad drafting makes a bad coach? Have you ever played football before? Because assembling talent in the draft is kind of a fraction of the coach's duties, even the duties that Parcells had as the HC of the Jets. Assembling a coaching staff and coaching up existing personnel, getting them to buy in to your systems, designing gameplans and making excellent in-game decisions and adjustments, as well as targeting free agent talent that fits your attack and philosophy - these things are what make Parcells a Hall Of Fame head coach. His drafts left a ton to be desired, but if you think that makes him a bad coach, you have no idea what a coach really does. By the way - Wade Phillips would have been a 2 year coach for the Cowboys if Parcells hadn't assembled that team to last.
^My point is, you can not be great without having excellent drafts. I have played club level football as a QB and K. And I can tell you, if you don't have the talent, its not easy coaching. Parcells got a couple of good players from the draft and couple from the FA, hardly enough to say he built the team. The team was there, just needed a half decent coach. As for the Cowboys, again, the team was there, just needed a half decent coach. Yeah he probably had more success in Dallas than with the Jets but Im not even talking about the Cowboys. Most of that success is directly related to Tony Romo's play, whom Parcells had a the third or fourth QB on the charts until he proved himself for a few years. He was willing to start Quincy and Drew Hanson (SP?) before he'd even look at Tony. I started following Jets in 1990. Ive been through the horrible seasons. I just don't feel like BP deserves as much credit as some fans give him. He deserves some credit, but not to the extent of making him sound like a great coach for the Jets.
You've got to be kidding. Parcells had a squad that already had potential? Really with Neil at QB? Who the heck are you kidding, those teams in the kotite years were awful, there was little talent outside of the LB's and Glenn. So how much talent is there? Aside from the 3-4 good players every team has, how much "potential" was there? Not all that much. Keyshawn Johnson did not perform well for a 1st overall pick, and no he wasn't a big reason for the Jets success in 1998. Vinny and Curtis were the big reasons. At the end of the day, the 2000 draft was a success. Pennington was our QB for years to come. Ellis and Abe were both damn good players. Becht was a bit of a miss, but he still starts. How many GM's would nail 3 out of 4 in the first round? Not many. Parcells left us Martin and Pennington, which laid the groundwork for the inferior Edwards/Bradway tandem to win some games. If you want to find some really bad drafts, look at the Bradway years. They were just as bad, but he was bad at picking up free agents while Parcells got great free agents. Doug Jolley for a #1 pick? Who are we kidding? Our drafting turned around when Tanny took over in 2006. Look up 2006 on, the only high round bust I see is Gholston.
Yep. At worst it was a mixed bag with Parcells, but his haters deny too much that is obvious. Before Bill was Kotite. After him were only the second and third Champ game appearances since SB III.
Parcells was awesome as the Giants coach but I've never liked the guy since he left there. First he switches over to the other NY team, and after that goes on to head Dallas and Miami, my two most hated franchises. Sure, he had a good run while he was here relative to where the Jets were previously, but I never liked seeing him wearing the green and white. I respect what he did for the team, but I just can't have any love for a mercenary like Parcells.
no, he isn't right because the connection the OP was trying to make was direct correlation to the game and Parcell's coaching the team, not indirect, which everyone seemed to have understood except you. hell, you may as well have said without the fake spike we wouldn't have had the Monday Night Miracle, because without it Pete Carrol keeps his job, we never have the Rich Kotite era and Bill Parcell's is never hired. see how f'ing stupid it is to make indirect arguments?
Typical Parcells. His regret wasn't sneaking around behind the Patriots back during SB week to get the Jets gig. It was "having" to leave the Pats, like he had no choice. What a Tuna! Of course then he would have had to regret doing that to the Giants with Tampa Bay also...
