regarding Cleveland, and not to be too legalistic here, but they've had two teams, not one, so how does that work? Yeah from the pov of the City of Cleveland, they've had a very rough ride. But their current team is an expansion team, and they've not had all that much heartache. As for the standings and how they are determined, I take it the "team that breaks your heart" standard is more about dashing raised expectations than about teams that few had any reasonable hopes for. The Jets do quite well on the dashed expectations scale, and by that measure are higher up than teams like Jville and some others.
Yes, but all but four of those teams have won their conference and made it to the Super Bowl since the Jets won in 1969
It's kind of unique being a Jets fan at this point. We get way too much national exposure for the quality of the franchise overall. That's because we're in a big market and when the networks flip a coin they tend to weight it towards big markets. We've got a clear franchise direction, and have had that since Bill Parcells came to town. The Jets are going to have a HC from the defensive side of the ball and he's going to come from a franchise known for great defenses. More than half the 1st round picks are going to go towards maintaining that defense. The Jets are going to spend more in the free agent market than most teams (sorry John Idzik) and are going to have brief sharp runs as a result of that strategy followed by plunges into the bottom of the division. This is not a franchise that is going to progress steadily towards the top, it's going to spike and then crash. Injuries are going to be felt more by the Jets than most teams because so much of the cap is tied up in a handful of players. 2005 was a crash year because everybody got hurt. Many people were 30-ish when that happened but it was still a run of terrible luck. 2007 happened because the Jets were plugging holes desperately and some of the plugs were funnels instead. Ditto 2011. 2012 was two injuries that took two of the highest cap numbers in the same year. The talent on offense was depleted with Holmes out because the Jets had a bunch of bargain basement guys behind him, which is what happens when you are paying 2 players $20M of your $130M cap and they both go missing for the year. 2014 was what happens when you finally take your cap spike year and go with a lot of guys because they're good on the cap instead of on the field. Now we're back at cap full and we're just missing a piece or two to make a real run. However next year cap is still full and in 2017 we're back at lots of highly paid players over 30. It's like a vicious cycle.
1969 was a long time ago...before I and most of the people here were even born....I'd even argue that because Jax and Houston are relatively new franchises ...the three most futile franchises are Det, Cle, and the Jets Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I'm sorry...the real Browns are the Ravens and they have won multiple championships ...so the current Browns are relatively new as well.....so the two most futile franchises are the Lions and Jets. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Since the merger the Jets have made the playoffs 12 times and the Browns 11 times. To put that in perspective the Oilers made the playoffs 10 times before they left Houston in 1996. To the argument that the Ravens and the old Browns are one franchise and the new Browns are an expansion franchise: that's total BS. If you were a Browns fan in 1994 you're a Browns fan today, not a Ravens fan. Art Modell, the guy who moved the Browns, was hated in Cleveland in a way that it is hard to imagine if you don't know somebody who is a Browns fan. Like Hitler hated.
It seems a lot of this goes on the heartbreak scale. The Jets are masters at giving their fans heartbreak, heartache, and heart attacks. So many brutal losses and disappointment. #2 seems about right.
That's why the Jets winning a Super Bowl would be that much sweeter. I truly believe it would be special and resonate more than the Giants last couple of trophies because of the wait and heartbreak the fan base has had to endure. Much like the 94 NY Rangers Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Love the Jets, but PAIN? Maybe top 5 I guess, now if this was an emaressment poll, different story. As for pain, Lions havn't won a playoff game in 20 years. Buffalo lost 4 Superbowls in a row, Minnesota has also seen more pain I would think. Just my thought.
Actually the day after we DO win the ring Champ will switch to being a Browns fan. His DNA requires him to rout for and bitch about a losing franchise. Either that or he'll become a Nicks fan.
Some teams like the Browns have sucked so bad for so long there is zero history/expectations of winning anything grand. When their seasons end at 5-11 or whatever they all moan and groan but it's pretty much exactly what every Browns fan expected. Fans of teams like the Jets that HAVE won it all and HAVE gotten semi-close on several occasions actually buy in to the fantasy of winning it all again, this season. Even with a rookie QB Mark Sanchez or a rookie QB Geno Smith two seasons ago when we somehow finished 8-8 and almost got in, a lot of TGG fans were posting ways it 'could' happen. That's just saaaad and makes for a very disappointed fan base year after year. We're just good enough to foster false hope, which leads to real disappointment.
One reason the Jets may be that high is because the media glare of being in NY. Every crushing loss and boneheaded mistake by the franchise is magnified here becuase of all the media coverage compared to a lot of those smaller cities that have never won a thing. If you look at it factually and without the media impact, I'd say the Jets are too high at #2 and should be somewhere between 6-10.
