i wanted to say favorable, but missing the playoffs will always push me to unfavorable, somethings you just dont do.
Very good, not great, pass rusher... WHEN HE PLAYED, which was a rareity. The guy was never healthy when there was a big game or the playoffs and he should've mustered up the courage and played in the 2004 playoffs, at least in the Pittsburgh game. Good riddance in the end because I'd rather have Nick Mangold.
Especially when our QB is out there with an arm that needs surgery, not only risking his career but opening himself up to the ridiculous criticism that he is still getting. If anyone had an excuse to sit out it was him, yet he plays and ends up taking a pay cut, Abraham sits and ends up with a fat contract.
John Abraham had the stomach flu and was throwing up before the game versus Oakland. In the 2004 playoffs, he had a knee injury that affected his speed, which is what made him as good as he was. In both cases, he did the Jets a favor by not playing, yet you all criticize him without knowing the real details. He didn't play both times so that means he could have played. Great logic there. Dan Leberfeld wrote a great article last year for Jets Confidential which really made all the Abe bashers look stupid. I suggest you all read it before opening your mouths on this issue again.
He was my favorite jet until that fateful playoff game where he showed himself to be the selfish, fragile dude that he is. I still think that he is a great player when he plays, but definitely not a Mangini guy. Although you can't blame him from a business perspective, afterall the team isn't looking out for him, so why should he look out for the team. In the end he is a tremendous talent with major injury concerns and no toughness. I wonder how much of his problems are real injuries and how much are him just being a pussy.
You can't argue that he wasn't a good player, because he was when he was with the Jets. However, it's a shame he missed those two playoff games due to him, I guess, being "selfish" by preventing himself from aggravating his injury. So all in all, John Abraham was favorable, when all he did was play and not whine or anything of that nature.
Abraham also made the comment at the time that "I have my career to think about" as he was entering his contract year. That pissed a lot of people off, and I was a supporter of his while he was here. I wanted the Jets to keep him, I'll admit I was wrong.
I agree.....Him not playing those games did it for me. However, thats Herm fault, it came out after that he really couldnt have played and it was all BS. Herm threw Abe into a corner there, but he really could have gone down as one of the best DEs in history, oh well.
Exactly MParty. It came out after that he really couldn't have played and that it was all BS. He couldn't even practice. The Jets PR department delibrately fucked that up so that they would look good when Abe held out the next year, which they knew would happen.
John Abraham, when he is on the field, is the kind of player that can change the outcome of a game. He can be THAT dominant. The problem is that he was never on the field when we needed him the most. He's a potato chip, very fragile and breaks easily. If he would ever take his off season conditioning seriously, thus reducing his injuries, he could be one of the best speed rushers in the NFL. Judging by how many times he was hurt (hamstring mostly) it is obvious that he doesn't. Oh well, not our problem anymore. :wink:
My memories of John Abraham would have been positive if he at least tried to play in the playoff games instead of nursing his injuries.
Unfavorable. For sure... The thing I always found so ironic about Abe was that he seemed to be so concerned about getting hurt/not playing hurt, but thought nothing of getting shitfaced drunk and getting behind the wheel of his Hummer...
It was great watching him play but I will also never forget those playoff games. Like everyone else, I can't believe he would sit out of those games just because of an upcoming contract.
