If you're going to discredit our wins against those teams at least be fair and bring up our own major injuries, suspensions, and the fact that we have 5 rookies starting including the QB position or do these excuses only apply to other teams?
You miss the context. The context was pre-season prognostications. It was apparent in the pre-season that many vets were gone, like Landry, Bell, Scott, DeVito, Pouha, Keller, Moore, Slauson, Edwards, Greene and of course Revis. There was also the churning with the Qb roster. It was obvious that many of those slots would be filled with rookies and other younger players. Take left guard. Once Slauson was let go in FA we knew that they would be either starting VD or a rookie. As for Qb I agree Smith was awful for the most part, but in pre-season it looked like Sanchez was going to end up the starter. While Sanchez Fans can speculate all they want that he would have done better than Smith, what was likely was there would be a Qb controversy, which his injury meant was neatly avoided. Speaking ofi injuries, are you suggesting the Jets did worse there than your average NFL team? Other than Sanchez, which net was probably a benefit (despite Smith's poor play), I don't think they had any significant injury that was unexpected other than Kerley missing a few games. Holmes we knew was injured in pre-season, and no one was counting on him getting back early and producing big time. McIntyre is a second line player. Reuland is third string. Cumberland I guess missed some, too. Arguably the most damaging injury was to a player who did not miss any games, and that of course was Cromartie's. As significant as that was, it is not as relatively significant as those suffered on average by other teams. No, i don't think injuries were a major factor for the 2013 Jets compared to your average NFL team.
Our only speed off the edge suffered an acl tear, Holmes pulled a hamstring, Goodson was suspended and then tore an acl, Kellen Winslow was suspended and doesn't practice much because of his bad knees, Winters was thrown into the starting role because Ducasse is a career backup, Sanchez tore up his shoulder, our starters at safety were Dawan Landry and Antonio Allen who are both strong safeties, the list goes on and on. Even with all the issues I just listed and more we still would have made the playoffs if Geno would of played like a competent starter for most of the year. But I don't blame Geno I blame Rex for throwing Sanchez into a pre-season game and getting him hurt. Geno should have never started this year it was clear he wasn't ready. I don't believe in excuses and 8-8 is not good enough no matter the circumstances but don't pretend like we didn't earn every single win we got this season.
Like I said before, many of the problems that occurred were not as significant as you imply. Before the season started no one was counting on Holmes to be a major contributor because he was so indefinite about his progress coming back from the lis franc injury. I think it fair to say Winslow overall contributed about as much as expected - he has had health issues before this season, and could hardly be counted on to be a consistent contributor. Goodson was a wild card due to his off field dealings and related issues with the league. I didn't have him pencilled in to do all that much, and in any event you neglect to mention Ivory, who was a huge contributor, doing much better than could have been reasonably expected from Goodson. Winter playing for Ducasse was not due to injury. It was because VD is a penalty machine and sucks at pass blocking. We knew that before the season started, too. I am not a Sanchez Fan, so I hardly think his absence hurt the team. His absence for one meant there was no real Qb controversy, other than whether Simms should have played more than he did. And on balance the Jets had BELOW average problems with injuries this year, including the fact that Kerley missed games and Cro was hurt all season. Still it wsa below average. As for your second paragraph, I don't know what you mean by earn. The TB game was a gift, and I was talking about the Atlanta and NO wins comparing them to pre-season prognostications. It was without question a benefit to the Jets that both those teams were significantly banged up when the Jets played them. Take those three away and the Jets would have been 5-11.
Knew he would tip toe around that one and not directly answer the question, like he made the direct statement. just sayin'.
Wonder how many other teams win games where their opponent is weakened... hate that argument whenever its used. its just a way of discrediting an accomplishment in a biased manner, since apparently other teams only ever get their record by playing every team in their schedule at full strength. oh wait thats not how it is, what matters is taking advantage of opportunities that come no matter where they're from and having to skill to bring out a positive outcome from them.
You have completely missed the context of the discussion. The context is why did the Jets do better than predicted? Looking at the schedule, and even taking the odds that the Jets could succeed in splitting with the Pats, in the off season last year I thought the Jets would lose to TB, Atlanta and NO. They won those games, and so the question is what factors were involved that tipped them from losses to wins. Every team tries to put themselves in a position to win ballgames, and that includes taking advantage if the other team makes mistakes, plays poorly, or can't play its best players due to injury. Of course that is true, and it is to the team's credit if they do take advantage of what is given them. So? That's not the point. If Rex defenders want to ignore that personal foul in the TB game as a factor in the Jets win, or that both Atlanta and NO were missing several key starters when the Jets played them, and say it was ALL to Rex's credit that the Jets win, well they are entitled to their opinions. But they would be wrong in their opinions.
Agreed there are always injuries, penalties and freakish plays that impact NFL games. The Jets are a team built on D and running the ball. They have enough talent to do that against most NFL teams who are not that great, have injuries and other issues just like the Jets do. To claim 8 and 8 is a great accomplishment based on talent or injuries is nonsense. The Jets are only a bad talent team in context of teams like Seattle and SF who won 12 and 13 games. In the context of the NFL the Jets are a mediocre talent team, the kind of team that routinely win 6 to 10 games every single year in the NFL. That doesn't mean Rex did a good job or a bad job. There were games this year where the Jets outperformed and games where they were flat and unprepared. Great coaching job is a stretch. To me the biggest reason not to fire Rex right now is there are way to many vacancies for the Jets to land a top coach and next year is a big rebuild year where Idzik and not Rex will be putting their stamp on the team for the next several years. The end of next season might be the time to make a move if a move is to be made. The Jets have an opportunity to add a ton of talent next year but even that doesn't mean they won't struggle. A lot of that talent is going to be young and some of it needs to mesh. 2015 is the year the Jets must make a run. There is no downside to keeping Rex for 2014. If he pulls out a miracle he gets a big contract and rightfully so. If not the Jets will be in a good position to make a move on a top HC.
No I'm asking you to name someone you would like to see replace RR. Acquire requisite genitalia and provide some names. :sad:
Anybody but Ryan would be satisfactory since RR will never bring us a VLT IMHO. That is why I mention that huge gene pool because out there there must be someone better then RR. Just looked at Balt they passed over RR For Harbaugh & R laughing all the way to the bank with last years VLT right? :sad:
You would think with over 300,000,000 humans in the world we could find a better owner, head coach and QB.
Not sure if you did the sad face knowingly but if you did as a reference to champ I bow in front of you. :grin:
