No, I said Revis is currently in his prime, but will be moving past his prime in a couple of years when he's on the other side of 30. CB's prime lasts a much shorter window than a QB's prime. although Brady's window is closing, he'll be retired within 2 or 3 years.
cant trade him in the off-season coming off an ACL surgery, the only time is during the year if he proves healthy which he will by then teams will likely wait until the off-season save a pick and take their chances then just give the man what he's worth and continue to build the team
There are a lot of ways to look at that game. Champ Bailey has been a great CB for years and he got positively torched all day so does that mean the CB position is overrated and should be paid accordingly?
What this game taught me was Rex was on point with his evaluation of Kaepernick. Rex wanted to draft him after Brad Smith left us. We would had a legitimate back up and a real Brad Smith replacement.
What he's worth at his position is about 10M per season tops. here's the problem, Revis signed a contract that paid him 42 million dollars in total over 4 years, and they front paid a lot of that money. Now revis is crying about being lowly paid now...yes, because he was OVERPAID in the front of the contract. He would have held out in 2012 if it wouldn't have automatically extended his contract past 2013. He was paid, when you figure in the bonuses, 32 million over the first two years of the contract, that's 16 million a year (actually more in the first year than the second, but you get the drift). You shop Revis, if noone makes a worthwhile offer of course you don't trade him...It's not a trade him at all costs scenario...But you'd be foolish not to dangle it and see what offers are made. If no suitable offers come in then you play him and take what you get at the end. People who assume you trade him no matter what you can get are foolish, but not even considering it is equally foolish. It's kind of like determining in advance that you can't get a date to the prom so you don't even inquire about getting a date and then sit at home sulking because you couldn't get a date. I've been a fan of this team for 44 years now. I suffered through the abysmal 70's, I watched as the team occasionally snuck in to the playoffs thorugh the wild card in the 80's....I watched in 1998 as the team won it's first divisional title since the 1970 merger, yes that's 29 years. I've watched a team that has won two division titles since that 1970 season when the leagues merged, that's 43 seasons of football since 1970 (I became a fan of football in 1968). I've seen some really good football players languish on bad teams and also rans. and I have repeatedly seen the jets sell a bill of goods on a star player and the fans wrap themselves up in that star player while languishing as fans of a third rate organization over the past 43 seasons. And yes there is a frustration there, but mostly what I've seen over that time is a team selling one or two star players and even in the pre salary cap days mortgaging everything on those one or two players. It's a formula that just doesn't work. That said, noone with reason is saying you trade revis for anything you can get, of course you only trade him if A) you don't belive you can resign him and B) you get an offer of real value. It's not a hatred of Revis, it's just a realization that you have to look at what's best overall in the longterm interest of the team, a decsion that has to be made objectively and void of "fandom" exuberance. But people who say you dont trade your your star player under any circumstances, especially when that star player isn't a QB, are just dooming themselves to the existence of the team that's been since 1970. The current state of the team reminds me a lot of that Jets breakdown after the 1960's championship teams (not that this team was ever that good). There is only one position on the field that justifies a contract yearly average of more than 12 million a year, and that's the QB, A corner back, even the best, worth 10M at best.
Alex Smith the castoff should naturally land here. No one believes in the ascending product, Harbaugh never flinched. Ill take Alex Smith on the Jets, get here and get your salary. Lets talk football.
This is a funny thread. One thing that was settled for me was that your O should be ready to step up & cover for your defense at any moment. Both teams went into this games with solid Defense & got lit up badly & relied on their offenses to bail them out. Knowing that, I'd say it's beyond stupid for Jets to invest about 20% of the cap on starting CB duo. Not enough money to build that solid D & an offense to bail you out in big playoff games. === Adding Revis to those defenses is not as simple as swapping one of their CB for Revis. You'll need to subtract 13+ Million of contracts off the roster of both those playoff teams (because Revis isn't signing for 10 Million). Hate this BS about signing Revis for a "reasonable contract". Throw out some damn numbers already and stop hiding behind generic terms when it comes to salary.
I really wish we had a coaching staff and or front office with the brass ones that Harbaugh has, see talent and regardless pull the trigger.
And I'm done with this topic, it's a moot point. Woody has said it's all about show business and insinuated thusly about selling PSL's. If that's truly the case the team isn't going to go much of anywhere. But regarding the term SOJF. There are two types of SOJF, those who believe no matter what the team won't win and those who always believe the team is "this" close to being a good team. Both types are normally self delusional, and over the past 44 years or so of being a Jets fan I've seen more than enough of both types to recognize them.
revis is going to sign a reasonable contract. he is coming off an injury, and the team just showed that despite him being out most of the season, they are still among the best in the league against the pass. you absolutely do not trade revis right now, because you arent going to get full value, plus, you will never have this sort of leverage again. also, people are completely discounting how much revis helps us against the run. you are talking about one of the best tackling corners in the league, guy gets involved and helps contain those edge plays for us on one side. revis is a HUGE part of our defense. more than i think a lot of you really understand. he is by far the best corner in the league, and that means against the run as well. you never trade a guy that good.
Totally on board with your way of thinking. Mevis will never be paid what he feels he's worth and with the way Cro stepped up in his absence, I say keep Cro and let Mevis go.
Wel, Well. Look there Tim Tebow did something Peyton could not do. Win a playoff game in Denver. Boom goes the dynamite.
Cmon man we are not going to be a contending SB team for the next 7/10 years so what good will DR do us during that period that we are dregs in the NFL? :sad:
Thank you for the explanation, couldn't have said it better. Some ppl read too much into things and some dont read at all.
The thing I learned from this game is that the safety for the Broncos needs to be cut, how in the world can you play that rainbow pass so poorly? The other thing I learned is that the Giants won without the greatest CB in the game, a great pass rush will put a stop to any good offense, trade Revis or let him go in FA and use that money to get 4 good pass rushers. I will say it today, the NFC representative will be the Niners or the Seahawks, and the NFC will win the SB again because they can get to the QB with the front four. The only 2 positions I would consider untouchable are HOF QB or RB, everyone else can be traded or let go in FA if it means, using the money to fill in important positions on the team. I do not beleive in putting all of your eggs in one basket, or in the Jets case a CB.
Every time you make this post, you add a year. The Jets need to rebuild. It takes 2-4 years to rebuild even the worst franchises. Please stop with this 7-10 years crap. 10 years ago the Jets had just lost to Oakland in the Divisional round after winning the division and beating Manning's Colts 41-0 in the first round. Pennington was the toast of the NY sports world. Abraham and Ellis were bookend DEs. Curtis Martin, Coles, and Chrebet were the keys to the offense. What did that team and roster portend for the 2009-2012 Jets. Absolutely nothing. You don't know what this team will look like 2 or 3 years from now let alone 7-10. Please stop with the nonsense. This team sucks and needs a rebuild, but 7-10 years is such an absurd statement I don't even know where to start. Why not say 15-20 years? 30? 44? 80?
This is a joke. Anybody that ties anything that happened in Denver this season to Tebow is the football equivalent to the village idiot.
