Ok lets leave names out of it

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  1. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    I just chose those 3 scenarios because they are examples of middling/poor QBs in recent weeks that lead their teams to victory down a score late. Obviously, no 2 scenarios are the same but there are countless examples to choose from in recent weeks and recent years. Teams win down a score late every week in the NFL.

    I'm beginning to question whether he's better than the alternative considering that. If these Jets are losing in the 4th quarter by any amount its basically game over. That's the story of Fitzpatrick's career. That's why those scenarios are desperation- and not a chance to win. They become desperation in our minds after the fact because Ryan Fitzpatrick couldn't get it done AGAIN.

    and judging by the way the team has looked overall? I'd say were gonna be in a few more "desperation" scenarios before this thing is up and I'd like to at least have a fighting chance instead of watching the Fitzpatrick movie again where we ALL know how it ends
     
  2. JetBlue

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    Geno is terrible and I have no interest ever seeing him on the field again.
     
  3. jerseyjay14

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    your "by the textbook" scenario doesnt make much sense.... since all starters arent equal and all backups arent equal....

    if aaron rodgers goes down, and his backup plays well in his absense, rodgers obviously comes back.

    if Brian Hoyer or Kirck Cousins or Blake Bortles gets hurt, thats a different story.

    if your starting QB is a an experiencce, proven commoddity, his job is his post injury. if your startign QB is a trash bottom 5 player who has no future, then you go with whatever is the best option at the time.
     
  4. TwoHeadedMonster

    TwoHeadedMonster Well-Known Member

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    I don't want Petty on the field until at least half way through next season.
    I don't want Geno wearing the uniform anymore.
    I wish Fitz was our third string QB.

    The reality of the situation here is that all our options are bad options--why there have to be 1000 threads on which one gives us the best chance to not suck is beyond me, as they all suck terribly.

    There are no non-suck options.
     
  5. jerseyjay14

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    he isnt playing because he is the worst qb in football and we are still in the playoff hunt. if geno plays this is a 5-11 team. its not likely we make the playoffs with fitz but there is still a remote possibility
     
  6. Martin&theJETS

    Martin&theJETS Well-Known Member

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    Not after yesterday
     
  7. PulseJet

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    I think Stokes earlier point was a good one that wasn't pushed by this thread but needs to be addressed.

    1) Yesterdays starting quarterback (injured and just recovering from surgery) was having a so-so game. Inaccurate at times, things not clicking with his receivers. Alot of 3 and outs. Can't sustain drives. Trailing by several scores but driving, on a designed call he scrambles into the end zone and gets blown up. The hit so hard to his helmet it pops off his head. Starting QB looks disoriented and needs help getting off the field. The Jets are down by one score but still in the game.
    2) Defense gets a stop. 3 minutes to go, Jets still down by 7. Rather than giving the ball to the experienced, healthy 3rd year QB (and 2 year starter) the coaching staff gives the ball back to the likely concussed QB. He throws a pick.
    3) The Jet defense stops the Texans, and the offense gets the ball back with 2 minutes left. Again, rather than giving the ball back to the experienced backup, they give the ball to the concussed starter who throws a second pick and the Jets lose.

    Why didn't the coaches put the ball in the hands of the healthy 3rd year QB? Is the coaching staff mistaken? Is the starting journeyman QB so much better than the 3rd year guy?
     
  8. joe

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    Geno was handed the job as Sanchez was getting shelved come hell or high water. Truth be told, Sanchez outplayed Geno in camp but the Snoopy Bowl took care of that....but that's waaay besides the point and no way am I looking to turn this into another ad nauseum Sanchize vs. Geno fanboi circle jerk. One's gone, the other blows, period.

    You wanna say Geno might've "earned" the starting job this year that's one thing (over Fitz rehabing a broken wheel and Petty whom they rightfully have no plans of playing yet), but to say that Geno earned the starter role a long time ago is a bit of a stretch. The problem with the Jets is that they handed the most important position to guys who weren't the answer without any true competition to speak of.
     
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    Well either way it doesn't look good on the coaching staff...because the possibly concussed QB threw back to back picks

    If they have that little faith in Geno then something is broken....why is he on the team in that case?

    IMO they had no reason to believe Fitz was concussed (independent doctors passed him) and they wanted to give him a chance to get the job done....it wouldn't be fair to Geno or any QB either to put him in that spot unless absolutely necessary (injury)


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  10. JStokes

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    NO NAMES!!!!!

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    I understand your point, but where is the evidence to suggest that Fitz was concussed? He was medically cleared to be put back in the game, in full compliance with NFL concussion protocol, wasn't he?
     
  12. Zach

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    Actually I want Geno in.

    Jets schedule is going to be pretty smooth from now on - so if Geno craps the bed, that will shut the Genobots up.

    Just as much as Ryan Fitzpatrick is NOT the long term solution, Geno is DEFINITELY NOT THE LONG TERM SOLUTION EITHER.
     
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    Geno is only there because the coaching staff wants to bring Petty along slowly. Thats it.
     
  14. Bellows1

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    Wouldn't be fair to Geno? You keep saying he's our savior, surely he could win the day and out hearts by pulling out a win. Wouldn't be fair, Ha.
     
  15. King Koopa

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    I was just saying if Fitz was possibly concussed like you said and the Jets still decided to go with him over Geno then what is the point of even having Geno on the roster over anyone else

    Like if you have that little faith then why even bother having him here?

    I just don't think Fitz was concussed or he did a good job in hiding it


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  16. PulseJet

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    I wonder about that sometimes. If the player answers most of the questions right but still looks a bit out of it, the doctors have to pass him. Thats alot of pressure on the doctors. If it was Brady do you think a doctor would ever pull him from a game?
     
  17. King Koopa

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    He's definitely not our savior but he could make this offense a little more dynamic (lol)

    And yes it would be unfair to put in a cold backup in that spot unless there was an injury to Fitz

    Looking back on it now I wish they did put in Geno because Fitz obviously ended up failing not once but twice


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  18. PulseJet

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    AGREED!
     
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    Lol ive been a aprt of every group over the course of the year. I don't think i was ignorant maybe just having too much faith to a fault.

    I am now at the point where i want neither of these guys TBH. i'm with you they both probably won't ever be shit.

    Now whats next? Hope Petty is ready because if he's not and thrown into the fire too early there goes another one. down the toilet.
     
  20. Bellows1

    Bellows1 Well-Known Member

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    Petty was a 4th round project, he'll either make it or he won't. If he makes it, win for us, if he doesn't, he wasn't expected to.
     
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