OK, I'm done with Wilson

You have to take a shot. These that did and succeeded are perennial contenders. In AFC look at top 3 teams: it is Allen, Mahomes, and Burrow show, all highly (top 10) drafted QBs. And their teams are on top year after year once these guys developed.

 

Remember when Carson Wentz was about to become an elite QB?. Seems like yesterday.

 

Zach is just your run of the mill flop.
A Jet staple.

 

Burrow just won the BCS. Can’t miss.

Buffalo had the defense and HC in place already prior to Allen.

Chiefs just went to the AFC championship year prior.

Those teams were already competitive

 

Well this thread merge didn’t make any sense.

 

How much more time did you need to shit on Zachenberg? Do you really thing everything has not been covered already?? If you can think of anything new we haven't touched on already, put it here. .No need for 3 separate shit on Zach thread at the same time..

 

It’s doesn’t really matter but stop trying to make Zachenberg happen.

 

Sure.. Zach it is going forward..

 

Drafted by Joe Douglas

 

Put on the inactive list.

(1) Dov Kleiman on Twitter: "#Jets have permanently benched Zach Wilson and demoted him to the inactive list. He will not be the 2nd string QB, Joe Flacco takes over that role. Mike White is QB1." / Twitter

 

Ouch... Sign of things to come..

 

White moved the line by 3-4 points. Jets now favored on the road.

 

Ozzie wasn't even that good at drafting QB. Who is? Andy Reid?

 

Still, the fact JD now missed on Wentz AND Zach, both #2 overall picks, is pretty concerning.

 

I think we can probably draw some conclusions that Wentz at least also gets that Eagles team to the Super Bowl. He was the front runner to win the MVP.

The similarities in profile are scary though. Small schools, weak competition, big arms, weird connection to religion (not a ton with Wilson in his defense), pretty disliked by teammates.

 

Flacco went to a small school also.

 

I don't think Wentz is a bust. He's one of the two guys picked #2 after #1 was a QB you can say this about. Andy Reid was the guy who landed McNabb and we know how that turns out usually.

Wentz is over .500 with 151 TD's 63 Int's and an 89.9 career passing rating. That's not a bust.

 

Definitely not a bust. But it was a miss at #2 overall.

 

Wentz rose up the charts during combine and offseason leading into the draft. He is just very mid. He did have a couple great years though

 

Wentz draft position definitely influences how he is perceived. At this point in his career he's not going to the Hall of Fame and you really want a HoFer out of a top 3 pick.

Also he has been hurt a lot. This is something that definitely affects both the perception of him and his actual value. Philly punted on him more out of frustration that he couldn't stay healthy than any other factor. Most QB's have an off-year now and then related to an injury. Wentz had like 3 of them in a row.