Ok all u football guru have a question

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    Nope. He meant NT. Raji won't still be there, though.
     
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    I really think Hakeem Nicks could be the answer alongside Cotch, Keller, Clowney and Stuckey. And if we decide to not go WR in the 1st round, Robiskie could be a viable option in the 2nd, considering his pedigree and strong combine.

    As it was pointed out, in my mind the best WR in the league, Andre Johnson hasn't had a franchise QB throwing to him and he's put up great numbers the past few seasons, so the argument for getting a franchise QB first and then a WR is invalid IMO.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    ABSOLUTELY. Everyone saw what happened to our D when Jenkins either took a breather or was injured. It's like they stopped playing. And while BJ Raji is a pipe dream where we are selecting in round one, seeing him brought in to spell Jenkins initially and also playing beside him in hybrids, and also seeing him line up occasionally at 3-4 DE... well... that would just be too good to be true.

    You never know. There were many people that thought David Harris was a lock for the 1st round 2 years ago. Draftniks make a lot of misses on their big boards. Plus, I don't see a problem with going ILB in the 1st, either, if that is the BPA on defense.

    Too many models of success around the league have benefited from 'head-scratching' moves like that. Like when the Giants were tearing it up with their pass rush and continues to draft DEs. The Pats during their ***heydey would always load up on linebackers, no matter their starting situation. At this point, I want a defense that kicks the shit out of the other team for 60 minutes no matter who we have on the field.
     
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    Two starting caliber CB's is not enough, we need 3 of them IMO. All the better to have a rook play behind Sheppard and Revis before inserting him into the rotation.

    On offense, I am more worried about O line depth than D line depth, but we are short in both areas. We will need a third RB as well.
     
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    You make some fair points. Was just wondering how you came to want an NT.

    Makes sense.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I agree with this for that reason... and also because, while I like Sheppard's ability, there is that small fact that he has had many problems staying healthy. He hasn't started for 16 games, ever, in his pro career.
     
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    That's true, and I'm all for building defensive depth. ILB is a position that should have a solid player available. That's our most likely position if we draft defense in the first. My point was that I really don't see us in a position to solidify the DL in the middle of the first. Like you said, though, players can slip. I love BJ Raji, but that's a pipe dream, as you said. Tyson Jackson would be my top pick at 17. If he somehow slips to us, it's a no brainer. Otherwise, I'd prefer a WR, but we desperately need depth at ILB and I'd be quite happy with Maualuga if he's there.

    I'm going to have to partially disagree on the CB front. I know it's a risk leaving Lito alone as one of the starters, and a CB may make sense. However, I think Lowery will do just fine in the nickel and as a #3. We do need some depth there, but I don't think CB is best served in the first for us. If our DL and ILB picks aren't there, and if we can't trade down, it has to be a WR.

    Ultimately, I guess my preference would go:

    1) Tyson Jackson
    2) Trade down, take ILB/CB in late first, WR early second.
    3) Rey Maualuga
    4) Hakeem Nicks
    5) Best Available ILB/CB
     
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    Even when LC was here over the last couple of years, I would not classify him as a #1 WR, so how are things so much worse now.
     
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    Seems to me the FO is really high on Clowney. I think this was a mojor contributing factor in Mangini's firing. I don't think they can understand why he wasn't used more.
    Barring the addition of a FA WR(let's not forget draft day trades), i think the FO may view Clowney as a #1. Who knows. but i'm not going to worry about who's on the team & who's not until training camp. Anything can happen.
     
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    i dont know why ppl say we need a #1 WR.....we need a solid WR but not a standout # 1....we are not going to be a pass heavy offense at all...people just say things because they dont know any better....if this was going to be a more balanced offensive approach id agree 100%, but clearly it isnt going to be....cotch and a serviceable guy along with what the jets have is going to be more then fine...

    also lets not forget keller
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I think that is a bit of a leap. This guy has not proven anything on the field during live regulation play to warrant viewing him as a #1. Not that he was given much of a chance, but some players are just great in practice and don't have it when it counts at some consistent level to help the team win games. I.freaking E. Justin McCareins.

    I'm not saying he can't be a very good player, but let's be real here.
     
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    agreed....if anything the jets dont feel they have any # 1 and feel thats acceptable....cotch would be #1 on the depth chart....but chansi and clowney would be just as valuable....

    i also feel the jets put great value in dustin keller...
     
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    Huh? The Jets fired Mangini because of his handling of...David Clowney? Seriously?

    I don't think the FO views Clowney as anything other than a big bundle of potential.
     

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