Oh Well Mack Headed to the Bears

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What would you give up in a trade for Khalil Mack?

  1. Next year's 1st round pick

    45 vote(s)
    45.9%
  2. 2020's 2nd and 3rd round picks

    13 vote(s)
    13.3%
  3. Package of players - please be specific

    0 vote(s)
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  4. Package of players and draft picks - please be specific

    10 vote(s)
    10.2%
  5. Other

    3 vote(s)
    3.1%
  6. Wouldn't trade for him

    27 vote(s)
    27.6%
  1. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    Fair.
     
  2. LAJet

    LAJet Well-Known Member

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    Nothing. It won't change shit Enough experiments till we get a new coach.
     
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  3. Ohnoit'sGeno

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    Again the Raiders aren't trading K Mack this year . Second do you know how many teams called the Raiders about K Mack. ( you would have come up with a much better offer. Do you know what the 49ers would give up to get Mack. The Packers would give up both 2019 first round draft picks. The Raiders aren't taken our garbage for K Mack. ( stop thinking other Gm's are morons, or jet leftovers are enough to get premier pass rusher- makes our fan base look like idiots ) That Jet offer wouldn't even get the Raiders to finish the call( all they would hear is click).

    Stop overrating the talent on the Jets. We have our franchise Qb but need so much more. This roster Still has more holes than Swiss cheese.

    Btw it isn't what would you give up, but what would the Raiders take to trade K Mack. I say give up two 7 Rds, Mauldin, and a used football to get K Mack. That would be so cool,we be that closer to winning a championship. ( obviously just showing how as sine this topic was).
     
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  4. playtowinthegame

    playtowinthegame Well-Known Member

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    Khalil Mack won't show until week 10 if Raiders refuse to redo hi contract or trade him to a team that will pay him his market value. Mack's holdout is and will continue to be a big distraction for the Raiders at the start of Part Deux of the Jon Gruden Era for the Raiders. They don't need it. Their d-line is going to be fine with the addition of Arden Key. They can't afford to pay Mack or keep him. It would benefit their franchise to move Mack and end the distraction.
     
  5. DefenseWinsChampionships

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    Why week 10, and not the entire season... What's significant about week 10?
     
  6. HomeoftheJets

    HomeoftheJets Well-Known Member

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    I've been saying that from the beginning.
     
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  7. Harpua

    Harpua Well-Known Member

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    He would actually fix our biggest defensive weakness. The secondary would look a lot better if the QB didn’t have unlimited time to throw
     
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  8. Harpua

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    Special teams is a big sign of depth problems. When you have fringe talents as starters your backups are even worse ... and those are the players making up the bulk of your special teams.

    We could not fix everything for this season, but seem to be heading in the right direction if Mac can get his head out of his arse and fix the O line and pass rush issues
     
  9. forevercursed

    forevercursed Well-Known Member

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    I wasn't pleased overall with the Giants game but again people are reading too much into pre season games. We were 5-0 in 1992 in the pre season and went 4-12. The Lions and Browns went 4-0 the years they went winless.

    This team has a good QB, RB's and WR's. They will move the ball this year. The defense will be decent in spite of Bowles and Rodgers just out of pure talent alone. Not sure what they'll do regarding Mack (perhaps we'll get Fowler instead) but top to bottom the Jets look like a 7-8 win team that maybe wins 9 if they get lucky. They are absolutely on their way to contending and will be a contender in 2019. This is being built up right
     
  10. forevercursed

    forevercursed Well-Known Member

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    Bingo. People tend to forget how many picks come from panicking QB's making rushed, hurried throws. Adding Mack brings the defense up another notch. He's the rising tide that lifts all ships
     
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  11. Harpua

    Harpua Well-Known Member

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    I don’t worry about record, just how the team looks reguarding talent level and execution. Darnold went 8-16 last night but looked good, because stats mean jack shit in preseason when your playing with fringe players .. which all 27 of our TEs appear to be.

    We have no pass rusher that can win on talent alone and that’s a big concern. Sure the D tightens up when the feild is short because we have talent in the secondary and a short field lets them shine In limited space.

    Parcell’s Assessment of premium positions is still relevant in today’s game. QB, Edge rusher, LT and CB are the most important positions on the field. We have potential at QB. He’s not great yet but shows all the signs of heading there. Our corners are good. Not Revis great but very good. The proble lies in using stop gaps at LT and have no player that scares a pass protected off the edge. They are glaring holes in the roster.
     
  12. Ohnoit'sGeno

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    Nobody walking away from 13.8 million dollars . k Mack will be back opening game.( when pay checks start rolling in). Will take that bet with anyone.
    If the Raiders don't sign K Mack to a longterm contract this year, than it becomes more possibility they move him during the 2019 NFL draft. There are so many teams that would be interested in trading for Mack. More competition for player = more expensive draft picks it's going cost. Again you don't think the 49ers wouldn't overpay to get K Mack. We aren't getting K Mack for our leftovers.
     
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  13. The Waterboy

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    Not that I wouldn't want Mack on the team but Oakland had 5 INTs last season to the Jets 11, Oakland was the first team in NFL history to go without an INT through the first 10 games
     
  14. playtowinthegame

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    The 5th year of Khalil Mack's contract would toll to the ensuing season if he's not present by Week 10. Meaning he'd not be eligible for unrestricted free agency in 2019. He has to at the very least report by week 10, which is Sunday, November 11th in a home game vs the Los Angeles Chargers. Mack would be available to play for 9 games then become an unrestricted free agent and next force the Raiders to apply a franchise tag if they won't/don't pay him whatever Aaron Donald gets.
     
  15. playtowinthegame

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    Mack is dug in, and the Raiders aren't making any attempts to redo his contract. How the Raiders handle the Mack holdout is certainly going to have an affect on other players on their roster, who are watching. Keep in mind Mack's agent, Joel Segal, also represents Amari Cooper and Karl Joseph. Cooper could play himself into the same situation as Mack next year. Bottom line Mack won't report until the Raiders make an offer. Book it.
     
  16. Ohnoit'sGeno

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    Mack will be there game one, but no later than week 2. For the millionth time he isn't walking away from 13.8 million dollars this year.

    The Raiders look like they hit the Gold mine in this years draft with the guys they drafted on the defensive line.Dt Pj Hall, De Arden Key,and DT M Hurst all these guys have shown they can rush the passer( all these guys will have an impact) .

    Not to mention emergence of Fadol Brown De ( practice squad last year) and S Calhoun who was a failure at Olb( looks great at De in 4-3)

    Their defense line with Mack could be something special. They aren't trading him this year, and the ball in the Raiders court. How well those defense players are doing the Raiders can just sit back and wait. ( will have a potent pass rush without Mack) . With him it goes to another level.

    Give me one of the Raiders pass rushing for the Jets K Mack, Bruce Irvin, Arden Key , s Calhoun- no he can't play outside lb in 3-4( strictly 4-3 defense lineman) and Fadol Brown - no at 6'4 285 is more De in 3-4 ,than Olb.
     
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  17. DefenseWinsChampionships

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    I'd rather give our potential Franchise Quarterback in Sam Darnold unlimited amount of time.

    And giving up multiple draft picks along with a 1st round pick for Khalil Mack would prevent us from drafting a 1st round Franchise Left Tackle for Sam Darnold (2019's draft is loaded with both 1st round O-Lineman and Outside/Edge Pass Rushers).

    I'm sorry. But you don't give up multiple draft picks along with a 1st round draft pick, not for no 27-28 year old DE/OLB you don't.

    Now Joey Bosa on the other hand, is a player you would give up a 1st round pick for (and a lot more).

    A.) He's recorded 10.5 sacks as a rookie and just last year put up another 12.5 sacks as a 2nd year player (23.0 combined).

    and...

    B.) Only 23 years of age.

    The more I think about it, the more I realize that giving up multiple picks including a 1st (as well as a ton of cap space) for a 27-28 year old defensive player... Is a down right horrible idea.
     
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  18. Rollo Tomassi

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    Khalil Mack is 27 not 27-28. He won't be 28 until AFTER this season and SB.


    No. 52 – Oakland Raiders
    Position:
    Defensive end
    Personal information
    Born:
    February 22, 1991 (age 27)
    Fort Pierce, Florida
    Height: 6 ft 3 in (1.91 m)
    Weight: 252 lb (114 kg)
    Career information
    High school:
    Fort Pierce (FL) Westwood
    College: Buffalo
    NFL Draft: 2014 / Round: 1 / Pick: 5
    Career history
    Roster status: Active (Did not Report)
    Career highlights and awards
    Career NFL statistics as of Week 17, 2017
    Total tackles:
    304
    Sacks: 40.5
    Forced fumbles: 9
    Interceptions: 1
    Defensive touchdowns: 1
     
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  19. Rollo Tomassi

    Rollo Tomassi Well-Known Member

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    Lol Joey Bosa isn't getting traded.
     
  20. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    I don't think that anyone is forgetting that. We just think it more important to protect our QB now that we actually have a guy who looks like he's going to develop into a FQB.
     

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