Official World Cup 2014 Thread

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  1. JStokes

    JStokes Well-Known Member

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    Thanks. Did not know that. Seems more reasonable.

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  2. Barry the Baptist

    Barry the Baptist Hello son, would you like a lolly?
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    So much for Algeria..... :)
     
  3. Poeman

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    Belgium better win, this is technically their golden generation
     
  4. Yisman

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    This does not count the last few matches

    http://www.ky3.com/sports/World-Cup-goals-could-blow-up-record-books/21049292_26508256


    Notice anything unusual about the World Cup this year? It has been an absolute goalfest. In fact, it's on pace to be one of the highest-scoring tournaments in the 84-year history of the World Cup.

    Over the first 12 games, the average number of goals per match has been 3.66, partly because of the Netherlands' 5-1 blowout of Spain. But nine of the 12 other matches have seen three or four goals scored.

    The average number of goals per match in South Africa in 2010 was 2.27, and FIFA calculates that the average since 1930 has been 2.86.

    You have to go back to 1954 to find a World Cup with a higher average number of goals per match. That year's competition, in Switzerland, saw the humiliation of goalkeepers with an average of 5.38 goals per match, the highest ever.
     
  5. BrowningNagle

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    Gosh, 3 goals per game is considered high? no wonder soccer struggles to generate a consistent fan base in the U.S.A, especially since it has to compete with our short attention spans and flooded market for entertainment alternatives.
     
  6. Brook!

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    Hi BN

    In soccer, 90% of all scores are following scores. As you can see 3.66 is a crazy average. This is the best World Cup start I can remember since 1986.

    0-0
    1-0
    1-1
    2-1
    2-2
    3-0
    3-1
     
  7. Dirty6Sanchez

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    Here's what I don't get. Why the big secret with this "extra time?" Why don't they let us know what the extra time buildup is before the 90 minute mark? I swear the refs just huddle at the 89th minute and arbitrarily go, "duh errrr how about 5 minutes!"

    It seems stupid to not know when the end is because in hockey, and I'm sure many of you agree with me, when you're up or down in the game the only thing you pay attention to in the last 5 minutes of regulation is how much time you have left to hang on/tie it up. With soccer its like, so...when is the end REALLY?
     
  8. Brook!

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    Watch the games again.

    Extra time is shown by the side ref. And TV's add the extra time right next to the time as 90+5 or 90+3
     
  9. Poeman

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    Ochoa with some killer saves
     
  10. BrowningNagle

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    I will try to see if I can follow what you are saying next time I watch a game because I felt similar to him haha
     
  11. Barry the Baptist

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    I think you are being harsh, soccer has a much larger audience than you think, granted it could be the novelty of the World Cup and the US being involved but yesterday's game drew a 7 share. Through the 1st 11 games ESPN has been averaging 3.7 million viewers per game. That obviously is just ESPN and doesn't include the Telemundo audience. The US/Ghana match demolished the US Open on Sunday and beat the NBA Finals on Sunday night. It was the highest rated soccer game ever on ESPN and the highest rated event ever on WatchEspn. Throw in the US has 20K fans at the WC and how many people were watching in bars and parks. I don't know how many people were at that park in Chicago but it was packed. Even more amazing is the game is in the middle of the work day for more than 1/2 the country. My guess is the game on Sunday vs Portugal will break the record from yesterday.
     
  12. BrowningNagle

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    I've always wondered, without really watching, why the scores are so low when the nets are so big. Now I know, it's because of the offsides rule and the tendency for teams to play keep away.

    I think everyone would agree more scoring is more fun, they should come up with some way to make it more high scoring. Now I am going straight from not knowing anything about the game to wanting to change centuries old rules and playing styles, lol
     
  13. Yisman

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    it's actually called injury time or added time. Extra time refers to 'overtime' in playoff type games (like world cup elimination games).

    In the Algeria match, the TV showed 1 added minute and the announcers couldn't figure out why they were still playing. They finally figured out it was changed to 3 (or maybe it was 3 all along and they didn't know).

    re:Brooklyn

    Are those the most common outcomes in order?
     
  14. BrowningNagle

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    It's growing, I'm not going to lie and it's opening my eyes a little.

    But after the WC is over most individuals will not care until 4 years from now. I think the novelty is a big part of that. The US Open was a boring blowout this year, too. If Tiger and/or Phil were competing shot for shot I think the U.S. Open viewership would've been much different, I could be wrong though, I am surprised about NBA Finals.
     
  15. Brook!

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    Hi BN

    You are not alone. Even the futbol world wants more goals. There has been some slight rule changes through out years. In the past, a win was awarded by 2 points and a draw by one. To make winning more important, FIFA started to award winning team 3 points to one.

    In the past, referees would call a position offside if the attacker and player were on the same line. Now they are not calling it offside. Also FIFA tells refs if you are in doubt, let the game continue as FIFA wants more goals. Nothing wrong in offering your opinion :)

    Hi Yisman

    Not in order. I would say 1-0 and 2-0 are the most commons though. 1-1 should also be in the Top 3.

    Barry

    Thanks for the ratings. Somebody call junc :D
     
  16. Yisman

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    This sucks.

    My boss asked me which team would win today's game. I said Brazil. And you can play handicap. Brazil will win by 2 goals at least. I hope he doesn't fire me tomorrow.
     
  18. Barry the Baptist

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    Fair enough, and yes the numbers for the Premier League would indicate that you are correct in that it is growing (NBC's BPL avg about 450 a game) but most people will only watch the WC. This however has been ESPN's highest rated WC ever (so far) and you have to think that those numbers will only increase if the US was to advance. I was shocked though as the highest rated US Soccer game ever was against Algeria 4 years and yesterday absolutely demolished it in terms of shares. I'm not one of those soccer fans who say it's a major sport and it's going to rival the NBA or NFL, that's lunacy but it is more than a niche sport like rugby or lacrosse
     
  19. Laszlo Kovacs

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    The Brazilian strikers are just awful. Great players on defense, great midfield and then Fred/Jo on the top; basically like a Brazilian babe with a killer body and a horse face.

    Great game by Ochoa on the other hand.
     
  20. JStokes

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    Isn't this a relatively new development? I seem to recall last WC it was kind of a secret, everyone was wondering how much "extra time" was left. Maybe 2 WCs ago? I remember it wasn't always as transparent as it is now. At least to the viewing audience.

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