Official "Hey I'm watching a game and I saw a prospect and he looks good" Thread

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  1. Mr Electric

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    Nick Fairley is an animal. After tonight's game, he has to be considered one of the top defensive prospects in 2011's draft.
     
  2. emania55

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    he's really pushing for a top 5 spot i think he'll just miss it.
     
  3. HardHitta

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    Wondering what anybody knows about Dontay Moch from Nevada ? Im watching him play right now against Boise state and he's got a great motor and gets to the QB constantly. He's a Defensive end but plays alot of OLB he looks like he could be a great pass rushing 3-4 OLB. Only problem is he might be a bit small he's only 6'2 245.
     
  4. Mr Electric

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    Moch reportedly ran a 4.25 (not a typo) this summer. He's a physical freak...if he pulls that shit off at the combine, he'll be a first rounder.

    He's a versatile pass rusher. I'm not sure he'd fit into Ryan's scheme because like you said, he's a little light...but he's got the ability to play in a linebacker in the 3-4.
     
  5. emania55

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    i never understood why people keep saying that 240 is too light for a linebacker in Rex's system. Bart Scott's 242, ( I know he's an ILB) and most of his linebacker's when he was in balt were in the 240's. Even now the ravens avg linebacker weight is 247. And in '08 when he was dc it was 244.
     
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  6. HardHitta

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    Damn and i believe it man he was lightning fast off the edge. An he has a crazy motor. Seems like a rex type of guy.
     
  7. Mr Electric

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    I'll explain it:

    Bart Scott is an inside linebacker. He plays an entirely different role than someone like Bryan Thomas or Calvin Pace.

    Rex Ryan likes heavier outside backers in his scheme. It's obvious.

    Terrell Suggs, Adalius Thomas, and Jarrett Johnson were Ryan's main OLBs when he was running the defense in Baltimore.

    Jarrett Johnson is listed at 6'3 265

    Terrell Suggs is listed at 6'3 260

    Adalius Thomas is listed at 6'2 270

    That average weight you posted is bullshit:

    Throw out special team's linebacker Brendon Ayanbadejo and that average rises to a little over 250.

    Average all of Baltimore's current 3-4 OLBs and only OLBs and that average is almost 260.

    The lightest OLB that Ryan's coached is Antwan Barnes. He came into the league around 240 and was absolutely useless in Baltimore's scheme. He bulked up to around 250 and that didn't matter - the Ravens cut him and now he's in San Diego...having a little bit of success in a different style of 3-4.
     
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  8. HardHitta

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    True. 245 isn't bad but against some of the top level Tackles he might be put on his ass... Then again if he can bulk up about 5-7 pounds of muscle i think he's a force and depending on how his overall combine goes he could be a drafted within the first 3 rounds. Seems like he could be a great 3-4 tweener player.
     
  9. Mr Electric

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    I'd rather have a guy like Oklahoma's Jeremy Beal. I just have a good feeling about the kid.

    Beal's listed at 6'3 267. He's a proven pass rusher that has experience at defensive end and linebacker. In my opinion, he'd be a perfect fit in Ryan's scheme.
     
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  10. emania55

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    you're right.
     
  11. NDmick

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    Thomas and Pace are 260+ as well.

    Beal is the ideal guy. He doesn't give up on plays. He'd love this scheme too.

    I think he's the guy on our collective wishlist who will be somewhere in the 25-35 range. That's enough to either trade up or back depending on where the Jets are.
     
  12. HardHitta

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    I Just watched some video on this kid, He's a pure beast. I would love to get him in the draft.
     
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    Incredible athlete, has no idea how to play football.

    A faster Vernon Gholston...
     
  14. SixFeetDeep

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    whats the story on clay matthew's brother?
     
  15. Mr Electric

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    That's basically the whole story. He's just Clay's brother...

    Casey's a pretty good player, but he's not on the same level as Clay Jr.
     
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    dopple post.
     
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    I think Casey's best bet is in an aggressive scheme (good, smart blitzer/run stuffer) as a 34 ILB or pretty much any spot in a 43. When he makes a play its because he gets to the ball in a hurry, just like his brother, but with him I'm guessing it's more instincts than pure speed (his brother has both). He could be an option for the Jets later as a backup ILB to develop if he falls, but he'll probably be one of the first 7 or 8 ILBs selected.

    Side note, JJ Watt is a monster. I thought of him mostly as a 34 DE, but he is just so quick for a man his size it's incredible. He has some really limited pass rush moves, but if he can develop that he'll be a force in either system.

    Also, Jermale Hines was all over the field today for OSU, could be a mid round safety option.
     
  18. SuperNova

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    Who do you guys think is the best running back out of the three-headed monster that comprises the Wisconsin backfield?

    Personally, I only knew about John Clay at the beginning of the season, especially considering James White is only a freshman. Granted, White and Ball have put up their gaudy numbers against teams like Purdue, Indiana and Michigan, who have less than stellar run D's.

    Meanwhile, Clay was quite good against the very stout Ohio St. run defense, and serviceable against the Iowa and Mich. St. defenses. Plus he has about 50+ more carries than the other two.

    Ball has good size, in a Gerhart-esque body, and Clay is a massive 255 (according to ESPN). White is a much smaller ~200 lb.

    I haven't seen much of their play, just Clay's bruising style of running. However, it's hard to miss the ridiculous numbers these guys have been putting up the past month. Who's the best/most-effective runner of the group?
     
  19. MagillaGuerilla

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    I think Clay will have a problem transitioning to the NFL. Sure, he's 250+, but he's not exactly an Okoye or even a Brandon Jacobs type power back, his weight really doesn't help. It slows him down, which will be a huge problem for him in the NFL, it takes him longer to "hit the hole" so the OL has to try and hold it open a hair longer.

    Maybe the cliche' about Badger RBs being products of very good OLs rings true?
     
  20. Doogstein

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    Ron Dayne was proof of that sentiment.
     

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