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Discussion in 'National Football League' started by Murrell2878, May 9, 2006.

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  1. 1028

    1028 Active Member

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    I wouldnt mind, but I dont think a 53 man roster would be the best of ideas. As it is this draft is taking up a lot of my time...not to say I am not enjoying it, but I do not think I will be able to keep this pace for much longer.
     
  2. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    This is why I proposed one of three options:
    53-man rosters

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    stop at 24 players (11 offense, 11 defense, 1 kicker, 1 punter)

    OR

    draft a few backups- maybe an extra offensive lineman, backup QB, two more running backs, a couple more WRs, kick returner
    maybe it'd be, say, another 10 players
     
  3. Wolfe Tone

    Wolfe Tone New Member

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    that would be awesome
     
  4. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    I would like that.
     
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    This is the one I like best, but with only 8 more rounds after the top 24 concludes:

    QB, RB, WR, OL, DL, LB, DB, KR/PR

    I do not think I could handle a full 53 draft at this pace, I would also be fine with just keeping it at 24
     
  6. Wolfe Tone

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    nice pick Ganooch, he was a steal, I have had him on my list for a while but never really looked at him
     
  7. ganooch

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    thanks, he is one of those guys who did it quietly and effectively
     
  8. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    ^But he was a CB
     
  9. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    For me it was one of two Cardinals corners: Wehrli or Williams. I opted for the earlier one.

    Williams was best at corner, not safety.

    Williams started at cornerback and moved to safety late in his career. ganooch's earlier pick, Mel Renfro, made the opposite switch.

    In other words, ganooch has three players (Lester Hayes the other) who played the bulk of their careers as cornerbacks and none who played the bulk of their careers as safeties.

    I don't have a problem. (It's actually helpful to me, because I need a free safety and all the ones on the board that I'm looking at are still there.) I'm just noting that it's stretching things a bit.
     
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  10. ganooch

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    well he played 4 years at safety and made the pro bowl twice at that position. i know a lot of guys here are picking linebackers and linemen and putting them in schemes they did not play. no problem here.
     
  11. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    All of us will probably have some explaining to do when this draft is complete. I have tried to draft players at places they actually played. The only issue I have is with Jack Ham and Bobby Bell. Apparently, both played on the left side. I knew that about Ham, whereas I thought Bell moved around all the time since he was such a phenomenal athlete.

    The rest of my picks made sense.

    Bob Brown was a right tackle. There is a guy I like at left tackle who I feel I can get late in the draft.

    John Hannah was a left guard.
    Larry Little was a right guard.

    Bob Lilly was a left DT, Buchanan a right DT.

    Butkus was a middle linebacker.

    Lem Barney played left CB, Wehrli played on the right.

    Jerry Rice predominantly lined up as a flanker, Warfield at split end.

    As for my other running back, I might just draft another smaller feature back type as opposed to some big lead blocker type. I'll say I'm running a split-back formation, like ganooch would have to run with Brown and Campbell. (Campbell ran as the tailback in the I-formation and Brown was not a lead blocker, so that 1-2 punch is a little off to me.)

    An all-time draft with MLB or the NBA would be pretty easy. With the NFL it is very hard because of the schemes and positional issues.
    Much of this stuff (schemes, where players lined up, etc.) is hard to find anyway, so I don't fault anyone here for drafting "a little off".

    I even saw something from Dr. Z that had me scratching my head. He had Ham as the greatest weakside linebacker. Well, if Ham was, in fact, a slave to the left side (and photos and film I have seen through the years would indicate he was usually on the left side), he'd be a strongside linebacker, would he not? After all, the strongside usually cooresponds to the left side of the defense (the strongside of the offense is the side where the TE lines up, which is usually the right side of the offense).

    There are going to be polls here on who drafted the best teams and I would imagine that the 10 of us are each going to want to make a case for our teams. I guess we're going to have to write how we'd run our offenses and defenses and how each player would fit in.

    We are all drafting Hall of Famers/near HOFers/future HOFers/active players and explaining schemes and what not could be the deciding factor here.

    Or people voting in the polls may ignore what we write (too lazy to read or care) and simply vote for whoever has more "name" players. In which case, I'll regret drafting Rich Jackson and anyone who drafted pre-1960s linemen will regret it.

    Last night I was thinking that if some of us realized that we may have made a mistake by drafting a certain player, why not allow a trade or two for each of us? (Somebody drafted two left tackles, as one example). Allowing trades (no more than 2 per team) is something I would like.
     
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  12. ganooch

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    edited message
     
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  13. ganooch

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    i hear ya. I picked aeneas williams as my free safety for two reasons.
    1) he was a safety at the end of his career.
    2) as a defensive back still better than many.

    however, not one of my better picks of this draft.
     
  14. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    On a similar note, JetGreen drafted Lott as a safety, but could have put him at CB, since he was a Pro Bowler there. Lott actually played all four defensive back positions- LCB, RCB, FS, and SS. He was best at free safety.

    To me, Williams was much more impressive as a cornerback. He may have made it to the Pro Bowl as a safety partly based on his reputation. I thought he was good at safety, not great. I did think he was great at cornerback. But that may just be me.
     
  15. 1028

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    Man I sure hope J-V sent somebody a list for tomorrow...
     
  16. ganooch

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    msu85

    really like yor last 2 picks. i remember seeing both of them play at the ends of their careers
     
  17. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    re: post 391

    I think there are enough knowledgable MLB fans at this place to do a baseball version of an all time draft. That devilsonthetownhallroof and 3rdand15Draw would be good candidates, among others.

    It would involve a ton of Yankees-Mets trash talking.

    Also, it would have no positional-scheme concerns. You wouldn't see someone drafting two first basemen for instance.
     
  18. ganooch

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    jet green is up next but is not logged on. if he does not pick by tomorrow at 6:00 AM, can i pm my next pick to someone because i won't have internet access until the evening.
     
  19. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

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    You can PM me 'cause I'll be on in the morning. I'll only read it if your pick comes up.
     
  20. ganooch

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    ok, thanks. I appreciate it
     

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