They are currently tied for 5th in the Big East not 3rd and I don't think the Big East is the 4th best conference. IMO the Big 10, ACC, Big 12, American, and PAC 12, are better because they all have more than just two good teams. I can't get over the 10 losses that they already have. they will probably have two more losses so we are talking about a 12 loss team not many of those team make the big dance.
Big East is 4th in conference RPI. Say what you want to say about it. But the selection committee will take that into consideration.
I think that the ACC refs suck. Maryland shot 27 free throws to SU's 6. Good thing they turn the ball over so much or we would have lost by 20. Fair and Ennis played well but we are not going to win many games with these refs. I know they wanted to stick it to JB for him showing up the ref on Saturday but 21 more FT that's a bit much.
The 6 FTs is like how the jets got called for a bunch of BS penalties after Colon punched the ref. it's going to happen to Cuse the rest of the season
sorry I misread it, I thought you wrote 3rd or 4th in the best conference. My mistake. Good one. How come Jim didn't storm the court over that call? sorry I misread it, I thought you wrote 3rd or 4th in the best conference. My mistake. Good one. How come Jim didn't storm the court over that call? did you mind another late game call going your way? The refs have been key contributors to numerous wins for SU- you guys cannot complain about the treatment you got from the ACC this year w/ a weak first year sched, playing IU in the ACC/Big 10 challenge, numerous late game calls going your way, etc... the ACC has treated them like duke most of the year.
So what you are saying is that they are getting the same favorable treatment that they got in the BE for decades..
I didn't watch them as close then so I can't comment, good teams usually get the benefit of the doubt so I would guess they got more than most in that conference but they have had some good fortune in their first year in the ACC.
I would not say that we got a weak ACC schedule. How could the schedule makers know that UNC would be playing like crap when we had to play them. We have Virginia away, Duke away, FSU away, and Pitt away. I was not complaining about how we were treated by the ACC just the refs last night. I'll give you that SU has about evened out on favorable calls, I wrote that when I was bitter right after watching the refs keep Maryland in that game with calls. CJ Fair started to heat up in the first half and he gets called with two ticky tack fouls within 20 seconds. We all get game called like that from time to time but you have to admit that it is a little fishy right after JB's Melt down Saturday.
Georgetown (and UCONN) always got the love from the refs in the BE not SU. I know i'm biased but that is the way I have always felt.
They only had to play Carolina once and it was at home. only have to play UVa once(on the road), Pitt and FSU are ok teams- nothing special. got IU in the challenge for some reason when everyone had SU as 1st or 2nd in preseason. Carolina got MSU on the road. I like seeing them play tougher teams but the sched worked out in your favor. evened out? it's been very pro-SU most of the year. I didn't see most of last night's game but Bilas said SU was settling for jumpers most of the game which was why they didn't go to line- is there some truth to that? and the biggest play of the game easily could have been a foul and SU got away w/ one. the duke call was very close, could have gone either way, you will see the typical duke calls in the future. by duke standards that was a good call. SU has been really good this year not b/c of officiating, good teams make their breaks and they have gotten quite a few but they have played really well most of the year.
A portion of the calls last night were away from the ball. Specifically, two each on Christmas and Fair were no calls most of the year. I know what you are saying and I agree to a small extent but the game last night was controlled by calls that were not because of the style of play. It's hard to win a game when two key players only get 3 fouls a game, especially when you only go 6 to 7 guys deep. The refs were making a statement to JB. As for the SU schedule, I have no idea why SU got Indiana and UNC got MSU. So I don't know if it was favorable treatment or a TV issue (does ESPN has input on the matchups as part of the tv deal?). I highly doubt we ever get both UNC and Duke away in the same year. It's not really going to matter once L'ville comes next year. There are a lot of tough home courts Pitt, L'Ville, Duke, UNC, and FSU etc. so it will all even out in conference.
So if they end up with 11 losses or even 12, why shouldn't they make it (the 'experts' claim that a 12-loss team doesn't usually make it notwithstanding). The "when" factors into it as well: if St. John's started out something like 11-2 and then had that bad patch they had in Dec-Jan, then they'd be going nowhere and rightfully so; not the case here. Double-digit teams (all at-large) who 'not often' made it: 2012: UConn - 13 losses So. Fla. - 13 losses W. Va. - 13 losses Texas - 13 losses NC St. - 12 losses Purdue - 12 losses Xavier - 12 losses Colorado, ND, Alabama all with 11 losses. Some sterling at-large records in 2011 (inc. short of 20 wins): Tenn. 19-14 Penn St. 19-14 USC 19-14 Mich. St. 19-14 Illinois 19-13 Marq. 20-14 Mich. 20-13 SEVEN at-large teams with more than 12 losses, 5 with less than 20 wins. 2010: Minn. - 13 losses Florida - 12 losses Louville - 12 losses Ga. Tech - 12 losses etc., etc.,
can you post who those teams beat and who they lost to for comparison sake? the # of losses alone doesn't tell us much.
That's why I never bitch about calls or come on a message board whining about them. Calls even out over time. I don't think for a second that the refs called that game any differently because of Boeheim's tirade. And we got a much needed win on the road. His ploy totally worked. Feeling kind of forgiving having said all that, he just sent me the two basketballs he signed for me and my son when we were up there for the UNC destruction. Literally just delivered to my office. _
Exactly what I was talking about. I need to go practice tilting at windmills if we're going to be bitching about officiating. It all evens out over time. _
In your mind, I guess you are right. Just means we'll have to player harder. Adversity builds character. I don't think we'll get one call the rest of the way. Yeah, this is just silly folly. I've never understood adults really taking this "getting close calls" BS to heart. Disparaging wins, teams, conferences, standings. It's cute. It's a message board, we've talked about dumber stuff I guess. Cool ball though. _
again, good teams usually get the calls. My issue was pretending like the close call at duke is somehow evened out. it's not, close calls went for you vs. duke, vs. State and last night in late game situations. I'm not a big autograph guy but my limited edition SI championship commemorative editions signed by Roy Williams are better
