Official 2012-2013 College Basketball Thread

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  1. kbgreen

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    Forgive me, Gods of all insignificant baskettball programs, for this egregious error.
     
  3. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    He is expected back in a month though, it looks like Southerland is done for the year so only a month for Coleman is good news.
     
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    Yes because SDSU and the Mountain West are insignificant. Whether you want to admit it or not there is good basketball played outside of the Big East/ACC and Big 10 as evidenced by the fact that Villanova is about the 3rd or 4th best program in Philadelphia right now.
     
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    Of course there is! There is the Big 12 and the SEC as well.



    When have I once called Villanova a National Powerhouse? For years, I have said that Jay Wright is the main reason the program is NOT just that, just ask junc.

    Why repeat what the first 90 Seconds of this Brilliant Rant says it perfectly:

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  7. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Jay Wright made Villanova a relevant program again and led 'Nova to only their 2nd FF since the 50s.
     
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    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    A) Are they, or are they not, a National Powerhouse? Do you rank that program up there with UNC, DUKE, Kentucky, UCONN, ect.?

    B) How Successful has Jay Wright been building his program off that FF appearance?
     
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    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    At no point in their history has 'Nova been a powerhouse, even when they won it all in '85 it was seen more as fluky than them being a power. They have always been a mid of the pack program. jay brought them back to relevance and made them a top 10-20 type team in most seasons.
     
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    Gonzaga was able to build incredible momentum off an Elite Eight appearance in 1999, despite the fact that they play in a conference that most high-school teams could run the table in, and absolutely no prior television exposure whatsoever.

    Why is it unreasonable for me to expect Jay Wright to build HALF that momentum for the program after a Final Four appearacne, playing in one of the top basketball conferences in the nation, with over half their games televised on national or semi-national television?

    And you are ducking my original question: What had Jay Wright accomplished since Villanova appeared in the Final Four?
     
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    who is on TV more? 'Nova or Gonzaga? who has actually made a FF?

    What has he done since the FF? Not much but much like the Rex talk this offseason you don't throw away a talented guy b/c he has a down season or 2 or 3. He has proven he can build a program.
     
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    College basketball is like a big fat guy greasing himself with the residue at the bottom of a glass of vaseline and vodka and letting a cross-dressing vagrant in Times Square lick that grease off for the advance promise of a reach-around.
     
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    The Heels took care of business last night, that's about all that can be said. They need to win these next 2 before they head into a rough stretch of at UM and at duke.

    PJ Hairston suffered a concussion and will probably miss some time which hurts, hopefully he won't be out too long.
     
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    Wait, so Gonzaga is a fraud and wouldn't want to join a conference with better competition, but now they're the school we should aspiring to be?

    Since Jay has brought the team to the Final 4, he has recruited seven 4 star recruits, and 2 3 stars. They've built a new state of the art practice facility, been at least somewhat in the discussion for receiving an invite to the Big East for everything and even still only missed the tournament for 1 year. Between '05 and '12, they've only missed it one year. Even UNC missed it in 2010.

    And now they're poised to make it as an at large with all but two of the rotation players being freshmen and sophomores with another good recruiting class on the way and a clear plan of how they're going to survive in an era dominated by large state schools.

    Edit: With that said, I went there from '05-'09 so I got an Elite 8 my frosh year and Final 4 my senior year. I think I'm probably always going to have a more positive outlook on Jay and the team in general because of that.
     
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    I know he will be back but this is a kid who will have to get in shape before he can play. He is a very big boy. 6'9" 280 so he very may gain weight just being laid up. There is 3 or 4 games left at that point and then the BE tourny. He will be lucky to get off the bench at that point. Your right, it is better than what Southerland is putting us through.
     
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    Exactly my point. Gonzaga has been able to build the charade that they are a National Powerhouse based on one Elite Eight appearance. Villanova, which unlike Gonzaga, legitimately had some of the tools to be a National Powerhouse (FF Appearance, Major Conference, Huge Number of TV Appearances), yet could not even garner as much attention as Gonzaga has managed to after an Elite 8 appearance.

    Gonzaga IS a fraud as portrayed by them media (Aka - Virtual Lock for a Two seed ever single friggin year). However, no one can argue that Gonzaga has managed to build much more off of their Elite 8 appearance than Villanova has off their Final Four.

    And He has won exactly zero NCAA Tournament Games with them.

    You mean you, I, and others built that with our generous Alumni Donations, don't you?

    So has Boise State. How has their hoops team done?

    Dude, they did not "only miss the Tournament". They missed the NCAA Tournament, The NIT, and whatever pathetic THIRD Tournament they have now that is such an embarassment, I don't even remember the name of it. They missed post-season play
    two years off of a Final Four appearance. That is a disgrace.


    UNC Made the Finals of the NIT that year. Last year, VU Hoops made the finals of intermurals.

    BIG assumption there. While the past week made a statement, there are 11 games, and a conference tournament still to go.

    As good as the LAST "Good Class"?

    I was there 92-96, the dawn of the Lappas era. Maybe that has an effect on my judgement?
     
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