We don't look bad when a bust gets cut. Teams always think they're going to look bad when they cut somebody who is eminently cut-able but in fact they look worse over time keeping those guys around until the fact becomes obvious. A player in his 3rd year who has looked bad the previous two seasons probably has a 5% chance of becoming a good NFL player. It happens but you're also just as likely, maybe more likely, to replace them with a Marcus Williams from somebody else's practice squad and get a player out of the switch.
Well players ultimately develop at different rates, but you're right. Generally they show something in the first 2 seasons. Something you can hang your hat on. Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk
Yes he was, and that's why I'm surprised he was cut. Maybe the jets are getting rid of players with red flags in their resumes.
This makes no sense to me. He played much better than Winters last year and offensive line really took a turn for better after Winter's ACL tear. Between that and him being only offensive lineman that stood out this year in the 4th preseason game, I'm pretty surprised. I hope we are right about our depth guys like Winter/Qvale. I doubt he makes it through waivers. And why didn't we just cut him after 4th preseason game if we weren't going to keep him?
I agree, but he was suspended for one game because of the police investigation into his supposed marijuana use, even though he was cleared and not charged with anything.
Sorry to see anyone get cut. It really messes up their career/hopes/dreams. I think I heard on talk radio the Bills only kept 6 O-Lineman on their 53. If this is true you know their gonna take a hard look at him. Kinda surprised he's not in Buffalo already. Buffalo GM: "Hey Rex, Jets just cut Aboushi. Is he any good?" Rex: "Aboushi, Aboushi....rings a bell. He played for me last year?" Buffalo GM: "Ah, yeah. He was your starting Lineman!" Rex: "Ah he played OFFENSE! Never heard of him."
I think MM generally played a zone blocking system and the Jets now generally use a man blocking system. An Olineman can be good in one system and bad in another. I believe zone blocking systems are generally more complicated and I think most linemen who do well in zone blocking systems tend to be smaller, more athletic and smarter while lineman excelling in man to man systems tend to bigger and stronger. Zone blocking systems tend to be much more complicated. It is possible that Aboushi is good in zone blocking systems and not man blocking systems and Winters is better in man blocking systems and is a disaster in zone blocking systems. If the coaching staff thought Aboushi was better and had more potential in their system then he would be on the roster instead of Winters (or someone else). The new front office doesn't have any loyalty at all to the Idzik picks and I don't think either has any guaranteed money left so there's no reason to keep a worse player over a better player.
He was a starter for our team a year ago. He's also a better player than Winters, IMO, at least at the LG position. Him getting cut means a lot more than fringe players getting cut, so it deserves its own thread I think.
Between him and I.K, we've now lost any chance we may have had at winning the NFL's weirdest player name contest. we'd better hold on to Douzable!
From what I understand, Chan uses a ZBS for his running game as well, and incorporates more counters, and trapping than MM did, so he could have used Aboushi in his scheme. Winters sucked in both run blocking and pass protection, and I honestly believe that the new CS has not seen enough of him because he was injured. It is what it is, no CS is perfect and of course I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt, but I think they got this one wrong. JMO
Chan Gailey was using a ZBS with the Bills, but I'm don't think he is with the Jets. James Carpenter gave an interview saying how much he loves the jets blocking scheme because its a man based power blocking scheme - http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york-je...ays-jets-blocking-scheme-is-a-dream-come-true. Here's his quote - "This offense is like a dream to me -- man and power blocking," said Carpenter, who played in a zone-blocking scheme in Seattle. "It's a dream come true for me. That's the type of lineman I am." Also, from what I understand a ZBS system's running plays do not generally have a designed hole for the RB to run through, but the RB is supposed to decide where to go and the Jets plays seem to have a hole that is designed for the RB.
I don't think Aboushi was really a whole lot better than Winters, it just seemed that way because the second half of our schedule had much weaker teams. Winters played: Raiders Packers Bears Lions Chargers Broncos Aboushi played: Patriots Bills Chiefs Steelers Bills Dolphins Vikings Titans Patriots Dolphins Situational football is important when evaluating players, you know how much harder it is to protect a QB when you're playing catch-up? Looking at last week's Browns' game is a perfect example. They have an excellent offensive line, but as the Jets took the lead and lengthened it, the Jets were able to increase pressure on the QB and ultimately become completely disruptive against a very good offensive line. I think the suspension was really the tipping point when you're comparing guys like Dakota Dozier, Brian Winters, Oday Aboushi, or other young backup linemen.
