So who actually did show up for Sanchez's sleepover this year? Do we have some sort of list? Holmes is hurt. I doubt Winslow went. The new RBs? Kerley and some high school buddies? Did they order a pizza? Did they have fun? I sure hope so!! This team could use more fun
Been discussed at length with pictures. Winslow was there, Kerley Hill, Cumberland, Hazelton, Ivory, White, Reuland were all there. http://instagram.com/p/booOWQPpsK/ Again though, with the attitude. Why can't we all just get along and hope for everyone on the team to play well?
Um, yards per carry is the most important stat for a RB. The only reason he BARELY beat his 2011 total numbers was because he got more carries. 3.5 games is not enough to extrapolate for the rest of the season. He was off to a hot start. Woohoo! What's to say he wouldn't have cooled down, sucked, and turned into his old self of destroying the team? That would certainly be more likely at this point in his career. Please, everyone else had the same opportunity? Kerley was the only experienced WR left on the roster. Of course he was a lock to take over as #1. But even then, we brought in Braylon Edwards for the last three games and all of a sudden Kerley stops getting targeted as much. As for Cumberland, the Jets literally had no other viable options at TE. Doing actual thinking can be hard. Not everyone is able to do it correctly though.
I agree YPC is a very important stat, But ~.3 is negligible. The person I responded to with that said that he had a significantly worse year then previous, Which just isn't true ( statistically anyway ) Kerley and Cumberland did have the same opportunity, The other WRs on the roster had similar amounts of experience. Kerley just had a better year. Just because Cumberland and Kerley made the most of their opportunity doesn't mean that no one else had a shot. Maybe had Reuland gone to Jets West he would have had better rapport with Sanchez and won the starting spot? Maybe if Clyde Gates had been on the team earlier and gone to Jets west he would have had better chemistry with Sanchez and would have faired better as our #2. I don't understand why this had to turn into an insult slinging argument, I just wanted peoples opinions on some observations I made on something I took the time to do research on. .
I am so glad Smith did not attend Marks gay fest. Screw him , who is he saying he's the starter. He should shutup after the crap play the last 2 years. I hope Gino does not give one inch to Sanchez and just lets his play speak for itself and hopefully it will good enough to put Sanchez on the bench where be belongs.
I'm not splitting hairs, I'm pointing out that he had one good game that happened to make up for the other three bad ones when you look at it from the perspective of one category (yardage). 9/9 vs Buffalo - 4 receptions on 8 targets, 68 yards, 0 TD 9/16 @ Pittsburgh - 3 receptions on 11 targets, 28 yards, 1 TD 9/23 @ Miami - 9 receptions on 14 targets, 147 yards, 0 TD 9/30 vs San Francisco - 4 receptions on 8 targets, 29 yards, 0 TD, 1 Fumble If he repeated those four games another three times to finish the season, how many people would actually be saying he had a "career" season? With only 4 touchdowns, and just as many turnovers? Catching less than half of the balls thrown his way? With only 4 games where he caught more than 4 passes? With fucking 8 games where he contributed less than 30 yards as the #1 receiver? Nobody would. His (almost) 1100 yards would be overlooked by how little he actually contributed to the teams winning chances on most days. His yardage total would literally be the only redeeming factor, and it is clear that the one big game in Miami is the only reason this is true.
There's enough responses with actual content and thought that I don need your approval or "contributions". Feel free to just not post or on or read any further topics. I will continue to enjoy the thought provoking intellectual conversations about my favorite team with the few somewhat rational people here in the meantime.
Actually really agree with you in general about Greene, I don't think he was impressive by any means. But playing devils advocate and what not; he still managed to match his production of his previous years even in our stagnant offense.
All I needed to read. Thanks for your input but go find another thread. OT: Embarrassed to be part of a community that still considers this am insult. Times are changing bigot, keep up
"Jets West" for whatever it's worth is over and done for 2013. Rookie camp's coming up in 5 days, team camp on the 25th - looking forward to traveling there and the updates from there. Maybe time to move on? http://www.newyorkjets.com/schedule/training-camp-schedule.html
He might be the worst poster I've ever seen on this board - I haven't been here THAT long but geez he will be hard to top
I'm not sure breakout years can be attributed to Jets West. However, I do think that it helps build team chemistry. I'm all for the idea of Jets West, and it's one of the few things Sanchez does that I fully approve of. I also am completely fine with Geno not attending. I don't know why he would. He's trying to establish himself as a leader in his own right, and trying to take the starting job from Mark. Given that, why would he show up to a Sanchez led and invented voluntary workout. In doing so, he's non-verbally saying Sanchez is the leader and I take direction from him. Geno made 100% the right decision not showing up to Jets West. It's not a matter of he doesn't want to work out with the guys or build chemistry, it's that he doesn't want to do it on Mark's terms, the guy who's job he's trying to earn.
While I see what you're saying, Showing up at Marks event and outplaying him or showing a good understanding of the playbook with his teammates would have gone a LONG way in getting him closer to the starting spot. Going to someone elses event and showing them up makes a much stronger argument for deserving their job then not going at all. IMHO.
I disagree, going to someone elses event and dominating their event would probably cause more discord in the locker room. Why not just avoid that uncomfortable situation all together. I think most of the people who wish Geno went to this camp have made up their minds that he is the "backup" QB and should be submissive. If he actually went to the camp it would have only satiated that notion.
A long time before you joined! lmao ^ This. Finally. Buh Bye TN. Nah nah nah nah.... BOT: I think there is some validity to the correlation between JW and the players. There' nothing wrong with spending time with guys before camp to play. Spending time with people in a no pressure environment helps build chemistry AND camaraderie. It doesn't necessarily have to dictate what system, plays etc. Its guys getting comfortable with one another and building trust. Trust and chemistry are the most important factors between the QB and his targets. I don't bash Geno for not going but I do think he should have been there.