NYYankees Offseason Thread

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  1. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    There was an article yesterday that said Cashman is going into the meetings this week with the attempt to gauge the interest in trading an outfielder now that Abreu has been re-signed. My guess is it will probably be Damon as he only has a limited no-trade clause. If not then it would have to be Melky and that would have to involve either a top pitcher or Cabrera from Florida. Nothing else would make sense.

    BTW, the agent for Abreu is also Santana's agent who indicated he expects the Twins to make one more attempt to re-sign him before offering him up for trade.
     
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  2. ollie

    ollie Right Wing NutJob

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    The Twins are not trading Santana. They are building a new stadium with public money and have to at least attempt to sign him next year. The politictions will freak out if they did because they're getting so much tax money
     
  3. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    They have no choice if they can't re-sign him. It's either that or they get nothing and he walks at the end of the year. Besides, don't they get Liriano back this year?
     
  4. AlioTheFool

    AlioTheFool Spiveymaniac

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    Mattingly is gone (shocker,) along with Bowa.

    I wanted Donnie to stay a part of the organization, but whatever. As for Bowa, I didn't like him from day 1, so I'm glad he's headed out west with his buddy.
     
  5. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    I', 100% with Alio.

    I would love to have Crawford over any other OF right now. Though, TB moved him to Left, he would probably play center in a Yankee Uni.
     
  6. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Mattingly will be back in the future. It's probably good he leaves for now.
     
  7. AlioTheFool

    AlioTheFool Spiveymaniac

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    No he won't. He's another former Yankee whose con will say he hates the way the organization treated his father, and we will never see either one come to Yankee Stadium for anything but perhaps an Old Timer's Day ever again.
     
  8. GQMartin

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    I agree the Yanks slapped him in the face. Though the Girardi move was the right one in my opinion, it can't be ignored as a disrespectful act.
     
  9. AlioTheFool

    AlioTheFool Spiveymaniac

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    It's actually quite disrespectful. Mattingly was retired and was adamant that he wanted out of the baseball life. He was tired of travelling with a team, and that was it.

    The Yankees begged him to come to Tampa to coach during the spring. Eventually he relented and took the yearly trip for a month.

    The Yankees then spent every moment after that asking him to join the club for the season. He finally gave in, became the hitting coach, and stuck around. Then Torre made him the bench coach, which had to be viewed by Donnie as the natural stepping stone into the managerial position.

    At that point, he was done fighting the desire to manage. I'm sure he was convinced he'd take over for Joe, whenever that day came. Leading into the final days before the decision, he was the clear frontrunner for the job in all of the local media.

    Then suddenly the Tampa crew decides Girardi is the guy.

    That's a clear snub.

    If the Yankees weren't famous for moves like this under Daddy, it might not be such a big deal. However, behavior of this nature is exactly why George was so hated before he was kicked out of the sport. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree, and this is going to be an ongoing problem in the Bronx.
     
  10. ButtleMan

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    Crawford hates CF. Its the reason why the Rays moved Upton to CF and then had Delmon Young get some starts there too when Upton was hurt.
    He doesnt want to play anywhere but LF.
     
  11. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    Florida third baseman Miguel Cabrera is officially on the trading block.

    The Marlins have begun contacting selected teams about the possibility of a Cabrera blockbuster. The Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers and Angels are all expected to have interest.

    Florida will likely seek a package of three young players, including at least one or two top-tier talents for Cabrera, 24, who is eligible for free agency after the 2009 season.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/baseball/mlb/11/06/marlins.cabrera/index.html

    Giardi should know if he has any redeemable qualities better then anyone.
     
  12. SixFeetDeep

    SixFeetDeep Red Hot Robbie Cano

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    there was pretty much no way around it if the yankees wanted to make the right move for the team
     
  13. AlioTheFool

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    Absolutely. I don't disagree with the way things played out. I just hate to see yet another Yankee legend get smacked in the face by the Steinbrenner clan.
     
  14. Don

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    What could they have done? I'm sure he was offered a job and turned it down. If they took Pena over Mattingly then that would have been a smack in the face. I can't see this being characterized that way at all.
     
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    Just thinking about the Cabrerra thing. All four teams rumored as being interested are the same ones interested in Arod. His options could be down to being pretty slim with Lowell in the mix too. Cabrerra is a much cheaper, younger version of Arod. He can fit the bill for any of those teams if you think you can straighten him out.
     
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    yeah but al arod costs is money, Cabrera is going to take at least 2 top prospects and a major leaguer, probably more.
     
  17. Don

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    That still may be a better deal.
     
  18. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    I would love to see us get Cabrerra. Giradi had no problem with him as he says below but the problem is if we did then we wouldn't have the players to get Santana if he becomes available so it probably won't happen. When the Yankees look at all the options they may find Arod is the best deal in the long run anyway. I certainly don't want Lowell who would be useless in Yankee stadium or Crede who is coming off back surgery. I would rather they stay with Betemit for a year then go with either of those guys.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/07/sports/baseball/07yanks.html?ref=baseball
     
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  19. 3rdAnd15Draw

    3rdAnd15Draw Well-Known Member

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    Girardi is a liar. I saw Cabrera fighting with teammates in the dugout while Girardi was there because of his half assed play in the field. Not like arguing either, actual fighting. He'll certainly hit though. But from the problems Yankee fans seemed to have with A-Rod I don't know how they wouldn't instantly despise a guy like Cabrera.

    Anybody is better then Joe Crede though, I guess.
     
  20. Don

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    I just read where the Yankees have no interest in Crede at all so that's a good thing.
     

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