#NYR lines today: Kreider-Hayes-Nash; Zuccarello-Brassard-St. Louis; Duclair-D. Moore-Hagelin; Glass-Mueller-Stempniak ..the extra is Malone
Just that your hard on for Stepan is funny and ridiculous, that's all. By the way, I'm assuming since Stepan was a top 10 center in shooting percentage the season before last, factoring in the rest of his game, you considered him to be an elite #1C then, right?
Actually, he was 12th. TO answer your question, No. One good year in a strike-shortened season does not make up for a career of futility at the most prolific scoring position in the game. Here is his year by year rankings in shooting percentage: 2010-2011 - 44th 2011-2012 - 104th 2012-2013 - 12th 2013-2014 - 145th Nice to have a first line center that finishes his chances?
Girardi outscored Staal. Ditto Moore and McDonagh. 1 Ryan McDonagh NYR D 77 14 29 43 +11 36 2 13 3 4 4 1 177 7.9 24:49 29.9 0.0 2 Dan Girardi NYR D 81 5 19 24 +6 16 1 3 0 2 0 0 100 5.0 23:07 29.5 0.0 3 John Moore NYR D 74 4 11 15 +7 25 0 2 0 0 2 0 115 3.5 15:19 21.2 0.0 4 Marc Staal NYR D 72 3 11 14 -1 24 1 1 0 1 0 0 92 3.3 20:31 27.5 100.0
LOL! I love that you used the basic shooting percentage stat instead of the leaders stat. Fine then, here are the year-by-year leaders in that category. Just look at the elite players listed! 10-11: Mario Bliznak 11-12: Chris VandeVelde/Peter Holland/Carter Camper 12-13: Anders Lee/Luke Adam 13-14: Roman Horak
Glad to see Duke back, up until his last 2 games I would have sat Hagelin for a game or 2...really don't like fucking with the lines when we are winning
\ Sigh.... 10-11: Mario Bliznak Played 4 Games 11-12: Chris VandeVelde/Peter Holland/Carter Camper 5 Games/ 4 Games/ 3 Games 12-13: Anders Lee/Luke Adam 1 Game/ 1 Game 13-14: Roman Horak 3 Games How about we apply your method to the first guy on the list who played 40 or more games? 10-11 - Steven Stamkos - 45 Games - 45-46 (91 Pts) - 16.5 Shot Percentage 17th Among Centers - Stepan 82 Games, 45 Points 11-12 - Mathieu Perreault 64 Games played 16-14 (50 Points) 26.7 Shot Percentage 7th Among Centers - Stepan 82 Games, 51 Points 12-13 Mike Ribeiro 48 Games (Strike Season) 13-36 (49 Points) 23.0 Shot Percentage 6th Among Centers - Stepan 48 Games 44 Points hmmm 12th best shooting percentage that year 13-14 Tyler Bozak 58 Games 19-30 (49 Points) 21.1 Shot Percentage 6th Among Centers Stepan 82 Games 57 Points
Or you could just use the shooting percentage leaders stat. Not that it matters, I just like that you're working really hard to prove this point as if I or anyone else thinks Stepan is this great goal scorer, and it's not his defense/passing/possession abilities that make him a #1/#2 center tweener.
Or the possession numbers, skill in front of the net, half-decent shot, versatility, wherewithal to not take stupid penalties. Tanner Glass isn't half the player Brian Boyle is. You could plug in half the AHL and probably the top 10% of the NCAA and they'd do an equal or better job than Glass.
You're saying a first line center shouldn't have to drive his line's possession or create scoring opportunities for his teammates? Of all the ridiculous and nonsensical things posted in this thread (or on this page, like comparing Tanner Glass to Brian Boyle)... this might be the winner.
I'm saying that the top responsibility of the top line center is to score points. This is why for the past three seasons, Five of the top ten scorers in the league are centers despite the fact that the league has twice as many Wings and Defensemen as Centers. Are you sure you understand how this sport works?
No, you haven't been saying that. You've been obsessing over shooting percentage for months and months. You just said passing and puck possession are not qualities a first line center should have, so clearly, you don't think scoring points is the top responsibility of a first line center. You yourself can't even follow your nonsensical bullshit.
And I have clearly demonstrated a direct correlation between a good shooting percentage and high-point totals. I apologize for presenting a concept too complex for you to understand. Those qualities are clearly more important to those surrounding the top line center rather than the center himself. Again, I apologize for not drawing you a blueprint, or for providing you a digital copy of "Let's Learn our Hockey ABC's". I will no longer be foolish enough to assume you understand the fundamentals of this game.
Hah, looks like someone realized they fucked up badly with this gem: I mean, you're saying possession ability from the most important position on the ice and an ability to create opportunities for others aren't at all important. Sloppy work on your part, Hackett. It was only a matter of time before your pile of horse shit crashed to the floor like a house of cards, but I didn't expect it to be in such a lazy fashion. Look on the bright side though, Hackett. There's at least one person out there who agrees with you! Katie Strang @KatieStrangESPN Driving possession and making plays are not qualities that a first line center should have.
