NY Rangers 2011-2016 Season + Offseason Thread

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  1. matt robinson 17

    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

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    Mourning is over....:mad:
     
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  3. talisaynon

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    Torts is ridiculous, I don't believe in the way he coaches.
     
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    He coached differently when he took tampa to the title

    I think he just gets the maximum out of his players in terms of using them at their full potential depending on what they can do
     
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    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

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    I would rather see us force the play more next year, forecheck hard like the Devils....
     
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    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    The forecheck is huge in divisional games and playoffs. But we also need some easy wins throughout the season and early round playoff games. This can be accomplished by adding a goal scorer. Come next year's playoffs, if we're sliding all over the ice blocking 40 shots a game, Im not sure I can watch
     
  7. Johnny English

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    Right. From what I saw of the Rangers this season, their ability to stop the opposition's attacks is fantastic. Their ability to turn that into offence was seriously anaemic. They need to fix the transition play badly - it's no good blocking shots if all they're going to do is ice the puck or give it back to the opposing player on the board at the blue line.
     
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    srqman1 Tired of BS

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    I'm so glad the New Jersey Floppers lost this Stanley Cup Finals.

    They never deserved to beat the Rangers to begin with.
     
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    I wasa trying to explain to a pretty dense friend of mine the bad part of blocking shots. And theres a few. The biggest negative is its very difficult to have any sort of a transition game. For obvious reasons. All those blocked shots typically end up right back on the opponents sticks for one. And if youre flopping on the ice, sometimes 2 and 3 Rangers at the same time, how are you supposed to transition to offense?

    Ill say this for the 100th time but its very pertinent. Never in my life, about 33 years of hockey-watching have I ever seen so many episodes in a single game of sustained attack in one zone for 2 minutes at a time. The Ottawa series was the worst but the next two not too much better.
    The reason for that, in LARGE part was the fact that we were sliding all over the ice blocking these shots which just went right back to the shooter or someone else on offense. Its a retarded model of play...its ugly, its embarrassing and eventually, I believe its self-defeating.
     
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    Torts is a top 3 coach in the NHL, I love what hes done with the NYR and believe he will lead us to the promise land.
     
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    Torts is a great coach...one of the best in the NHL and the Rangers are lucky to have him

    PERIOD

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  12. matt robinson 17

    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

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    Talking to yourself?
     
  13. tcrock

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    I don't know, to me their style of play is about all of the things mentioned here, shot blocking, and forechecking (cycling down low)..all were staples to their success all year and got them to where they were....their transition game was much better during the reg season

    In my opinion, playing that way all year took it's toll and this was a tired team come playoff time.......don't get me wrong they were not an offensive juggernaut all season, but their finishing and retaining possesion of the puck & forecheck struggled in the playoffs because they were gassed....and becasue they faced quality opponents each night.

    Everyone wondered why they continually came out flat in games that they could have gone up 2 in each series, to me that's all they could muster.....an every other game solid effort.

    A couple more skill guys and a healthy Gaborick will help...as well as a few additions by subtraction. Not sure I'd change to much in terms of style.
     
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    As soon as you add those goal scorers, youre changing partially, your style of play. Also, the goal scorers are going to be, more than likely, NOT the type of guys who are gonna block 5 shots a game.

    Goes back to the Gaborik argument. A 40 goal-scoring, Euro is NOT gonna block shots with their fuckin faces.
     
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    Rangers have one of the top 4 goalies in the NHL, with that kind of confidence in net, there should be no need to block EVERY SHOT. With that said, it’s not the reason the Rangers lost in the playoffs. The main reason is puck control.

    Rangers have a solid defense, the one thing they do lack is physicality in front of the net. Every playoff series the Rangers were dominated in that aspect, I can’t count the number of goals that were score because a player was able to muscle his way in front or get a dominate position on a defensive player for a screen and a tip. I would like to see some bigger bruising type defensemen in a blue sweater next season, this could help the cause tremendously.

    The offense was anemic, you can’t expect Gabrick and Richards to do all the work. Rangers had some overachieving players (Boyle) which made them look better than they are at times. I think we need a few solid 2nd line players that can move the puck and shoot more them one 100 million dollar mega star.
     
  16. matt robinson 17

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    Michael Sauer
     
  17. eyedea

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    more like sauerkraut
     
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    matt robinson 17 Well-Known Member

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    6' 3" and needs to play bigger, so does Marc Staal, who was very aggressive in the playoffs...
     
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    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    Aahhhh you yongsters ( and even you old farts like MR) make me giggle sometimes.

    Youre confusing two different approaches.

    Old school NHL defensemen collapsed down low and their job was to clear the net. Rangers dont play that way.

    Wwe have decided ( for good or bad) to block the lanes. See, theres no reason to clear the net because the puck isnt getting to teh net. You cant cut off lanes and collapse to clear the net at the same time.

    Matter of fact, during one of the post games, Leetch and Daneyko were talking about it. They dindt block shit. They just moved people out from the net. Well, Daneyko did, that was THE weakest part of Leetch's game.
     
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    If he ever plays again.
     

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