I'm advocating exactly that. A new beginning starting with a new Team President, New, PROVEN GM and new personnel dept. No more guys with no resumes. Now if this new regime wants to keep Rex on, fine but Rex has to help himself too here. By that, I mean he has to get better and he doesn't get to take his sweet time about it either. No way will Woody give Rex the Cowher treatment. If Rex doesn't have this team straightened out by the end of his contract, He's walking the plank along with Tannenbaum. I highly doubt Sanchez survives the turnover as well.
gimme a friggin break. The team is rarely prepared, often flat, completely lacking in discipline, and generally makes dumb plays at every turn. The coach is to blame for all of that, it's his responsibility to prepare what he's got. They might lose, they might be outplayed because of a lack of talent, but the mistakes and lack of heart if is on the coach. Fatso Must Go.
How can anybody defend Rex and Tanny at this point? This team has lost 5 games by 2 TD's or more in 11 tries this season. The bad 2005 team that suffered injuries at QB and everywhere on the offensive line lost 3 games all season by margins of 2 TD's or more. The worse 2007 season that saw the Jets suddenly become a team without a QB moving forward lost 2 games by 2 TD's or more all season. We're in Kotite territory at this point with Rex and the Jets. The 1-15 team in 1996 lost 7 games by 2 TD's or more. The 3-13 team in 1995 lost only 4 all season by those kind of margins. Look, I'm sorry Rex didn't work out. I liked him as much as anybody, but the handwriting's not just on the wall here it is spray-painted in bright pink garish letters. The man is not a good head coach. His team is degenerating in all areas of the game including the one place where he clearly is very talented - on defense. Tannenbaum I'm less reserved about. I have always disliked his talent acquisition plan and now that it is blowing up in spectacular fashion I think it is clear that he has to go. You can't keep doing the same things and expecting different results and there aren't enough high-priced free agents out there to save the Jets right now even if the cap would allow it, which it won't. Time to start over.
Rex's only downfall is refusal to at least bench Sanchez for a series or a quarter for turnovers. Those are plays a QB just can't keep making. GM needs to be fired and with a new GM he should be given the option to bring in a new coach if he desires. I don't think Rex is the biggest problem though. The talent is just no there for him especially on the defensive side of the ball.
This sounds great, do you believe Woody will let this happen without meddling or blowing it up too soon? I don't think he wants to become irrelevant to become relevant. I don't think he wants to sacrifice seasons now for a potential great future. We need to commit to a change and that means new everyone in 2014 when Sanchez, Rex, Tanny contracts end (barring miracles this year or next year) The problem with this, is that means one bad year next year, probably 2 with the new coach unless we get a peyton in the draft. It means committing to a few bad seasons, can Woody be patient enough to do this >
If Woody can stop stroking his ego long enough to realize that he's not a football guy, but a NFL Owner, we might stand a chance at a new beginning. All Woody needs to do is sign the best Football guy around and let him reorganize the Franchise w/o interference from top to bottom. That includes long time guys that apparently have gotten comfortable in their positions (Talent Scouts-Bradway's unit).
And all the fumbles on special teams. Those are on Sanchez too. And all the missed tackles on defense, damn that QB! And the line getting blown up repeatedly that's clearly all Sanchez! Dammit if we had a better QB everybody else on the team would get their thumbs out of their asses and play better! And the receivers! Those guys are like all-pros in waiting and this QB is screwing them all up. All the fumbles they make after catches! All the passes they drop! All the routes they run into double coverage in zones! Damn that QB! And the runningbacks! They wouldn't be fumbling if it wasn't for the QB! They wouldn't have played 3 quarters of the season so far, like Greene did, without trying to make a cut in traffic or looking for a hole! I mean, Jesus H. Christ, if the QB was better 49 other players on this roster would be playing at the top of their games instead of playing the NFL game (Not For Long). I got news for you. There is one person ultimately responsible for who the Jets have been able to put on the field this year. His name is Mike Tannenbaum. There is one person ultimately responsible for how those players have played. His name is Rex Ryan. In figuring out how to fix the chaotic mess that is the NY Jets at this point any solution that does not start with those two names being removed from the equation is going to be half-measures at best and a continuation of the degradation of the franchise as the likely result.
Pete Carrol took the Patriots to the playoffs twice, and firing him was the best move they ever made.
If firing Rex means drafting a QB in the 6th round, him starting b/c or injury, winning a divisional game on a strange ruling on a game winning FG then winning the AFC championship while losing the said QB for most of the game, then that QB coming back for the SB, doing nothing for 3 quarters while the defense leads to 10-14 points and then that QB driving down the field and the Jets FG kicking getting another GW field goal, sign me up. Then that QB turning into a top 10 QB of all time, sign me up. But I feel like we are in a different scenario
I knew someone would miss the point entirely. Belichik still has had a little something to do with the Patriots success. and he got the job because the Pats weren't content with just making the playoffs. that's the organizational attitude that it takes to win Super Bowls.
you are right but suckchise needs to be holding a clipboard. start McElroy . we have already lost 7 games with suckchise. it's not like holly mangold could start at qb and look any worse! :rofl:
Im with Rex, we have to keep him. We cant keep firing coaches and think bringing in a new one is going to fix everything. Rex still has some things to learn but I still have faith in him. BUT saying that the offensive gameplan has to change. Sporano needs to go already and we need to get in someone who will play to our strengths and not just stick to a gameplan no matter the cicrumstances. You dont have to be a ground and pound team to run the ball, the pats showed that tonight.
actually, Kraft hired him because he wanted a change involving both the GM and coach and had wanted to hire BB but wouldn't after the Parcells fisaco.
So Belicock is lucky and just riding the Brady wave? C'mon, you don't really believe that do you? The Patriots are rock solid proof that a SYSTEM works, and plugging players into that system is what wins. Randy Moss went there and blew it up, and the second he got out of line and became a disruption, he was gone. Deion Branch was garbage everywhere but Foxboro. Defensive players go there and while the defense sucks on paper, they generally over perform. The system there has made stars out of nobodies, on both sides of the ball. Sure he got some lucky breaks, but so does everyone. I only wish the Jets could be that 'lucky.
I agree we need Norv Turner to run this offense, Turner may be a bust at head coach but he is a great OC, I wanted him all along Sparano is a joke I Think Norv is the answer for this offense i always have, Rex doesn't know anything about offense he needs to stay out of the offensive meetings and bring in a real OC like Norv to run the whole thing , Rex said this in a morning interview after last night "I think our offense is improving, I really believe that," Ryan said.
Rex is the main problem. The fact that he has done nothing to address the Sanchez situation just demonstrates there is no accountability on this team. Players should be constantly playing to keep for their jobs - the minute they feel there is no one behind them that can replace them you are doomed. Coaches don't fumble but they sure as hell are responsible for preparing their team and getting them ready to play. This team comes out flat and unprepared way too often.
I love the fire in this guy. He brought an identity to this team and something worth fighting for. I hope he coaches for as long as he wants and retire as our HC but it's difficult to believe what he's saying atm
