Remember a lot of this talk at the combine are smoke screens. There has been talk of the Jets being in love with Ruggs the Alabama WR. Sure he’s speedy but at #11 with Lamb possibly still on the board? ((Assuming the Jets go WR) JD is simply testing the waters for a trade down .... It’ll be most likely OT otherwise WR at #11 I’m pretty sure of that...
I totally disagree. I think Chaisson would be there before Okudah. Okudah not only has great physical attributes, but he has had more production than Chaisson, although Chaisson plays the more important position. That said, there's no way in hell the Jets' #1 pick should be used on a defensive player. If it is, and one of the top 4 OTs is still available, or if Lamb or Jeudy are still available, and if he has a good trade down offer and still takes Okudah, then I'll want Douglas fired before the 2nd round.
I agree that he's a stud and would fill a huge need, but he could be Revis part deux. The only way I would accept Okudah as the #1 pick is if all 4 of the top tackles are gone as are Lamb and Jeudy, and Douglas isn't able to swing a trade down.
What I meant was the only defensive player I'd consider taking that has an outside chance of being there. Chaisson is a lock to be available at 11
Thanks for the clarification. Yes, I agree that Chaisson is a lock to be there at #11 unless some GM has lost his mind.
We have a chance to walk away from the top 2 rounds with a blue chip OT and a starter at WR. Then head into round 3 with two picks. This can be a transformative draft for us. Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
He was awesome to watch throughout the past season for LSU. I knew he was going to skyrocket up the draftboards when they were talking about him being a mid-to late 2nd. Guy is a stud. Wouldn't even be mad if we went OL at 11 and somehow traded up in the 20s (if he's there) to get him. I would much rather prefer trading up for Jefferson than Ruggs.
@NYJFOREVER I think I found the reports I was looking for a couple of days ago. They're on https://thedraftnetwork.com/prospect-rankings Marino Run Blocking - Powerful worker in the run game. Does well to unlock his hips, accelerate his feet and create movement. Lethal working combos and down blocking. Long, physical and aggressive when pushing around SEC defensive linemen. Pass Blocking - Love how he brings the fight in pass protection. Has exciting moments of framing blocks, leveraging his hips and keeping rushers at the end of his reach. There are times with twitchier rushers where he can give up a step and he gets top heavy when recovering, leaving his feet behind. Has some erratic moments reaching his set points, particularly on vertical sets and he fails to get enough depth. Has some room for growth but his peaks are outstanding and he has the physical gifts to improve. Blocking in Space - Only average on pulls/climbs. Can get better with the angles he takes releasing into space so he can more consistently connect with moving targets. If he lands his punch on back seven defenders, it’s game over. Power - Outstanding power throughout his frame. Executes with good leverage and posture to maximize his functional strength. Punches are heavy and violent. Does well to absorb power and anchor in pass pro when he gets squared up. Rarely loses a rep on account of a lack of strength. IQ - Experienced executing pro concepts and techniques. Has been challenged with a variety of pass sets. Aware and alert in pass protection. Keeps his head on a swivel and comes off/pass off blocks as needed. Timing is generally precise and he has a strong understanding of his role within the play. Feet - Has the foot speed needed to win. I wouldn’t call him an explosive mover and he can struggle to keep pace up the arc with speed off the edge so cleaning up his pass sets is necessary. Has to be more consistent with his feet when rushers gain a step instead of being so reliant on his upper body to recover. Love how he keeps his feet engaged in the run game. Hands - Does a wonderful job of playing with extension and winning with first contact. Does well to place and fit his hands. Timing and location of his punch is precise. Delivers powerful punches that stun pads. Balance - Has some lapses with body control. Base can narrow and he gets top heavy at times in pass protection. Contact power and balance is generally outstanding in the run game. Easily absorbs power, leverages his hips and showcases a sturdy anchor. Versatility - Profiles as a left tackle at the next level, ideally in a power scheme. May have some challenges in a vertical passing offense where deeper drops from the quarterback are frequent until he cleans up his pass sets. BEST TRAIT - Power WORST TRAIT - Footwork RED FLAGS - None NFL COMP - Ronnie Stanley A three-year starter at left tackle for Georgia, Thomas enters the NFL experienced in a pro scheme and executing against the best opponents college football has to offer. As a run blocker, Thomas is outstanding and profiles as an immediate impact blocker in that regard. With that said, there is a need for growth with his footwork in pass protection to develop consistency handling speed. There may be some lowlights early on as he irons out his technique but Thomas has all the gifts needed to become a high quality left tackle in the NFL.
Harris Cons: Doesn’t play with great bend on the perimeter. As the game progresses, his technique will falter a bit and has shown instances of being a waist bender later in games. As a result, shorter pass rushers that can bend and get the edge, have given him some issues on the perimeter. Inside moves and counters presented some adversity in the LSU game. Has sufficient anticipatory instincts on twists and games. Needs to become more consistent handling the cross face. Has sufficient range for the position. He can play OT in the NFL but may be best suited to play inside at OG. Crabbs Pass Sets - He's best in quick sets — sufficient on the edge on vertical sets but he'll get tested with bursty rushers and have to extend, flip his hips and chase up the field in order to keep rush angles steep. His foot speed isn't his greatest quality but length and wide base often protect him. Length/Extension - The dude has vines for arms — he's got a ton of length and shows good timing to implement strikes with efficiency to land blows and negate first contact with defenders. Appreciate his extension skills on the edge, he needs it to protect the boundary in pass pro. Balance - You don't often see him conceding space, a testament to his ability to absorb contact and not get uprooted. He redirects well and while he can be prone to chasing, he isn't a real leaner and is able to maintain functional control of his feet. Too strong to get pushed around. Hand Technique - Strike timing and variance is quite good, maximizing his value to win at first contact. Grip strength is terrific and he's often locking in tight, low hands on the numbers of defenders. Will torque and escort defenders out of gaps. Power at POA - The Notre Dame game is the most fun you'll have watching someone drive block this year — he's blasting defenders off the ball on every single play. Dominant presence up front and moves piles of bodies, not just his individual man assignment. Blue chip quality. Football IQ - He's disciplined up front to avoid chasing chaos in space. His angles out of his stance are quite crisp and allow him to win on the second level. His man exchanges on twists and stunts are sufficient and he trusts his length to maximize his range. Functional Athleticism - A little clunky when he's tasked with getting lateral along the LOS or taking deep pass sets against wide alignments. His ability to work across face and hook on outside runs isn't great because his lower half isn't super dynamic. But he's plenty quick when he's flashing forward. Anchor Ability - Brute strength is incredible. He'll squat and absorb even the heaviest of hands with little issue — dominating presence on the edge when tested with 5T alignments or odd fronts. Haven't found anyone who can get under his pads and collapse him off the edge. Flexibility - Isn't overly impressive here when you ask him to unlock his hips to the sideline. No issues with leverage, pad level or rolling hips through contact but he's a bit stale on drive/catch in vertical sets or as he looks to work cutoff blocks that test his lateral range. Competitive Toughness - Brawler who is constantly at the throat of his defender. He's nasty, plays with attitude and thrives in gap/power runs to play through the end of the whistle and escort defenders out of the picture. He's got all the raw power and natural strength you'll ever need to bump bellies. --- Best Trait - Power at POA Worst Trait - Foot Speed Best Film - Notre Dame (2019) Worst Film - LSU (2019) Red Flags - None Summary - Andrew Thomas projects as a high end starter at the NFL level, but he doesn't appear to be a universal prospect and his pro team would be well served to feature a lot of power rushing concepts between the tackles and implement West Coast offense tendencies in the passing game. Thomas' movement restrictions on the edge will allow dynamic pass rushers to test him on an island and deep passing offenses featuring QBs holding the ball longer won't maximize his skills.
I listen to Matt Miller's podcast (yeah i know he's not extremely reliable) but he had a very interesting and believable take: being able continue watching more film & tape on the other guys, with the senior bowl and the combine has pushed up them (the other tackles) just above Thomas.
Sorry, but that would be outright stupidity, setting us back years in developing our Offense and probably risking Darnold to serious injury Macagnan would run to the podium for Okudah....smh
Disagree completely. The draft is littered with talent in rounds 2 and 3 at WR. If they got 2 guys in FA at OL okudah isn’t a bad pick
He’s the top CB in the draft and CB is a huge need. However he won’t be there at #11 so I don’t think JD has to worry about it. However if he was there at #11 it would give JD reason to pause.
Definitely not rooting for it to happen but if Okudah's there you definitely need to think about it and likely take him. He's going to be an instant shutdown corner.
