Maybe you should pull your WASPY privileged head out of your ass every now and then. As a black American, I am always on guard around the Police. ALWAYS ON GUARD. Its a basic survival skill for those of us not fortunate enough to have grown up and live on Utopia like you do. You're just arguing the point for the sake of an argument. I'm done. The Real World beckons..flawed as it may be.
This type of conduct -- which, at the very least, appears to be excessive force -- gives decent, hardworking cops a bad rep. Makes their lives and jobs a lot tougher.
You ever run from the cops when you were a kid because you were afraid of what you father would do to you if you were caught? Multiply that by a few dozen with real world consequences and its not so hard to comprehend.
I'm white, 2 of my brothers are retired NYC cops, I'm a fully law abiding citizen and I'M still on guard when I'm around uniformed cops. I can't imagine what it'd be like for a black man. _
I ask AGAIN, how many times have you been pulled over? have you fleed? you can keep giving me excuses all you want but please answer the question. you can deflect w/ Utopia nonsense, I live in a very diverse area. the people are law abiding citizens and we never see issues w/ police. It is amazing how that works. w/ that said I am not naïve enough to think there aren't bad cops(white AND black- yes black people can be racist too!) and maybe that's the situation here but AGAIN we need to stop w/ the rush to judgment as we saw in Ferguson and Staten Island. I have never run from the cops and using a child example compared to a man being pulled over and running is a little different.
Okay, you are a little dopey this morning, more so than usual. There are a lot of reasons that poor people, and particularly poor black people, are wary of the authorities. They are much more likely to get fucked up by petty bureaucratic bullshit than you or I. A couple hundred dollars in stupid fines might mean not enough money to pay the rent this month. Who needs that? The dead guy had a child support arrearage and likley knew that getting collared would mean he could end up doing time. Which most divorced fathers of limited means will tell you is a very frustrating and self defeating situation that does nobody any good, least of all the kids or the mom. Maybe the cop threatened him with a beating he would rather spare himself from. There are many rational and reasonable reasons people run away from cops. We'll never know what this guy's reason was, the cop saw to that. White kids from law enforcement families aren't going to have the correct perspective on this, I'm sorry.
yep they are and they are also more likely to commit crimes thus leading to more interactions from police and the police being wary being in those neighborhoods. the police put their lives on the line to protect people in those neighborhoods. they are on alert 24 hrs a day. he had a longer rap sheet than just child support payments but if that is why hew as running it wasn't a good reason. he's going to get caught and in this case got killed which could have been prevented. I agree my perspective is different but every case has to be racism when we find out the facts in Ferguson it was justified but it's still "hands up, don't shoot" nonsense. all the facts are ignored. every case is different, it doesn't mean automatic racism if a black guy is pulled over or a situation like this happens.
Junc, it's on tape. He shot him in the back and planted evidence. The math here is not that difficult. You don't blame the victim for this.
again, all the facts need to come out. I have not blamed the victim, I have not absolved the officer. the tape shows part of what happened, we need to know ALL of what happened.
It seems highly inappropriate and tasteless to me to use this situation to defend cops in general or fault the victim for his actions. It's even worse than likening the situation to other recent news stories that aren't appropriate comparisons. The focus should be on the victims loss of life and his family and the killer cop should be referred to as such. Don't be a douche. This guy was straight murdered by a cop. Land of the free?
You gotta be kidding me--most parents train their kids to say "yessir" "nosir" to get out of trouble. And that includes Afr. Amer. parents.
it's more offensive to not be able to read. In no way have I defended the officer or fault the victim. Just reserving judgment until we know all the facts. it's dangerous to jump to conclusions as we have seen w/ recent events. take your own advice.
you sheltered man you. This is not true. http://www.reddit.com/r/Bad_Cop_No_Donut BTW - I know it's Reddit, but you will find some truthful threads on there w/ proof. Read some of the stories of people [skin color does not matter here]. Some of the stories on there are pretty sad to be honest. I've never had any negative encounters w/ cops as a Black male - I know better - I don't want to get harassed by anyone let alone cops.
I don't live a sheltered life, I live in an incredibly diverse area but the people are law abiding citizens and we never see issues w/ the police no matter what color they are. you say you haven't had any negative encounters either, cman apparently hasn't either. when you are doing the right things then it lessens the chances of events like just happened. it doesn't remove the possibility completely but you have a much better chance of avoiding this than a Michael Brown type.
I live in a diverse area. If I were born and raised in Ferguson (or where BrowningNagle was) ... not sure if the same would occur. I like to keep to myself and not be secretive. I have nothing to hide. IDK if the cops would care and I wonder if they would still harass me. I think they would, but I am generalizing here.
I'm curious, what facts could there possibly be that justified the cop firing at him as he ran away and clearly was no longer a threat to the cop, even if he had been previously, or a likely threat to the community? Just hypothetically, what is your opinion of what facts could possibly justify the shooting?
the video picks up just after they are wrestling w/ each other, there is an issue w/ the taser too where he may have grabbed it or tried too. do I think that happened? probably not but I'd like to know what happened before the camera was rolling. that's a pretty important piece of information I would think. once again, I have stated support for the officer. I just hate everyone already convicting someone before all the info is out.
junc, this (being on tape) is pretty much a slam dunk. Since the deceased was running AWAY from the cop, the cop's "I felt my life was in danger" contention no longer washes. I know Charleston like the back of my hand and that No. Charleston in particular can be pretty rough and tumble in some spots, but that's besides the point here. When a guy is running AWAY from a cop and the cop draws his gun and fires eight rounds at him in rapid succession, that pretty much reeks of "running away eh?....I'll fix your ass." And what's Slager's lawyer going to do? Try and pull a Bill Kunstler on the jury and invent some sort of "blue rage" defense? Game, set and match. Slager's got a better chance of seeing God.
