North Charleston shooting

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  1. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    as a country, I think we've been divided for some time, this isn't something new.
     
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    it's getting worse especially when most people think Michael Brown did nothing wrong and every case it is assumed a)racism and b)the white person/officer is wrong.
     
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    The chart was the answer the user's question of why does it matter. I posted a graph - that's all there is to it. That was my only intention of putting that graph up.
     
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    You don't want this to be about Garner.

    Your picture doesn't prove a choke hold. The fact that you believe it does shows you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

    I didn't realize studies done in the dark ages of 2013 were no longer valid in 2015. Thanks for bringing us all up to speed on that new information. Please provide a link to clarify.

    Why would anyone be against cops wearing camera's anyway? It helps civilians and officers get the truth.
     
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    The chart didnt do anything but muddy the water. good job
     
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    this country has been divided for some time now the only difference is that there's social media and cameras. Everything is on a larger scale, everyone sees what's going on. Also, people are looking to do something about it. It will only get worse until everyone comes together - which to me, I think will never happen.

    Like I said before, I think police brutality isn't just a race issue, all races are affected by it.
     
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    The graph also shows a 48% drop from August to September. A month to month chart that fluctuates by 30%-70% monthly is pretty useless. Even yearly charts spanning decades are not very helpful since only a fraction of law enforcement agencies report their data to the FBI for the UCR. Some years may be reported and others not.
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    I've been reading this on social networks. Some people believe there is a force trying to create divide between races to gain some sort of control (media, political, etc...).
     
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    I encourage you to read their website.

    http://mappingpoliceviolence.org/

    That should clear things up a little bit.
     
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    Maybe I will but if they make misleading charts to stir the pot I have to question their motivations
     
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    Cameras protect both sides. Every officer should be required to wear a camera.
     
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    Yeah, I don't want this to be about 1 person. The truth in those cameras, people still get away with it. I am interested to see what transpires in the issue above.

    Cop's arm wrapped around a man's neck isn't a choke-hold? Here's what I encourage you to do. Google Choke-hold and compare it to the picture I just posted above.

    Times change, they change quickly. Anyway, me and you this talk is a complete waste of time. Continue with your ideals.
     
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    if Al Sharpton made those graphs I would agree w/ you
     
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    The fact that people question these police homicides is a good thing - not a bad thing. It shows we are evolving as a society.

    The fact that there is also debate that comes out of it is also a good thing, and shows that we are less divided as a country. In the old days a police homicide, especially one with racial overtones, would be swept under the rug and it would be business as usual.

    ^That is far more scary and far more divisive/dangerous than a national debate that involves people from all demographics sharing their opinions. Debate does not equal societal division
     
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    but it is being made into a race issue, we never here about police brutality toward white citizens. it's always "unarmed black" and just b/c a person is unarmed doesn't mean they are not dangerous. w/ that said there are obviously issues w/ police brutality but to paint it like it's the majority isn't fair and to paint it as racist white cops isn't fair either.
     
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    it can be a very good thing IF we didn't rush to judgment.
     
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    Some people get a thought in their head they just can't let go of no matter what evidence is presented to them, that is ignorance.
    Numerous studies have shown significant reduction in complaints when body worn cameras were in use.

    http://www.greenvilleonline.com/sto...-among-concerns-police-body-cameras/20938753/
    Of course it is not going to all go away at once and there are still going to be police brutality complaints but try and find a report where complaints did not go down when cameras were implemented.

    The fact the research was done 2-3 years ago does not at all reduce it relevance.
     
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    I agree with this. Maybe the media is totally trying to ignore other races in attempt to divide us as a country and create a racial barrier, I really don't know. The media does love to stir the pot and I myself hate the media.

    I don't rush judgement, I didn't rush judgement on MB story, I like to look at things as a whole, but there is an issue out there with blacks getting killed by cops it's as simple as that.

    don't make it more difficult then what it is.
     
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  19. The Waterboy

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    Headlocks are not choke holds and that is where you are confused. A choke hold would mean there is constant pressure on the neck and the person in a choke hold would not be able to speak whereas a person in a headlock could.
     
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    Not everyone is going to understand what we are talking about here on this board, there are some truly ignorant people out there that don't look at things in different perspectives. I think we are very divided as a country. There are some people that simply just don't listen.
     

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