Yes. With the exception of last year, how many years have we taken an offensive player in the 1st round since 2009? The NFL is an offensive league now, not defensive. What's so difficult about seeing that? It won't make one whit's difference if we take Bosa and he winds up being a HOFer. It won't help the offense any, other than some TOs he may create, and odds are, our offense would just turn the ball right back over, or at least turn it back over on downs. The OL is in serious need of upgrading. If Sam is going to progress instead of regress, he has to have some weapons around him. QB is THE most important position on the team. We have a lot invested in Sam and he is our major source of hope for the future. To draft another defensive player, no matter how good would only make sense if there are zero offensive players in the draft that could help the Jets. If there are none ranked that high, then the Jets could always trade down. I believe that a trade down can almost always be worked if one is willing to accept a little less. There will be several teams that will covet Bosa and will be willing to not only trade up to get him, but probably pay handsomely for the privilege of doing so. In all likelihood, there will be some edge rushers available in FA that will be a significant upgrade over what we currently have. Besides, with a new HC, we could wind up switching to a 4-3 D alignment and could get a better pass rush via an improved scheme. Would it be nice to add Bosa? Certainly. If Mac had addressed our OL earlier as he should have, or addressed the imbalance between offense and defense, or taken Mahomes in 2017, then no one would have any issues with Bosa being taken #1 in 2019. In fact, we'd all be ecstatic. None of those things happened however. We either need to take the top LT available at our pick or trade down and take the top LT or WR available without reaching.
At this stage we don't know if there is anyone on the staff qualified to be doing the job they have today. Bowles and Bates and possibly Rogers have proven they are not. Now would be an excellent time to shuffle some things around to see if there's anyone on the staff at all who can contribute and is being overlooked by the decision maker - Bowles. The worst that could happen is the Jets lose out - not a long shot with the current staff. But, Jets.
IMO that (signing Clowney and then drafting Bosa rather than an LT) would be criminally stupid. We would supposedly have a great pass rush, but that and $2.50 (or whatever it costs these days) will get you a ride on the NYC subway. We need a complete team, not a defensive team for the ages and a middle school offense.
Yeah, let's fire Bowles, Bates and Rodgers, and make Dennison the HC and McCown the OC, or maybe we could try a different assistant coach each week in a different position, and give everyone a shot at being OC, DC and HC. I'm sure that would work. Even if there are a competent assistant coach or coaches, are you going to force him/them on the next HC rather than allowing him to hire his staff? If the Jets had fired Bowles and shuffled the CS around, the Jets would have been the laughingstock of the sports world. We'd be longing for the calm days of Rex's tenure. The NY/NE media would rip the Johnsons a new asshole and rightfully so. Whoever it was would have had zero chance of succeeding. It's going to be difficult enough for the new HC with mini-camps, OTAs, TC and preseason to turn things around, much less some position coach who has never even functioned as a coordinator, much less a HC.
There are 3, maybe more. Jonah Williams, Alabama Greg Little, Ole Miss Yodney Cajuste, West Virginia CBS Sportsline also has Trey Adams, Washington listed as a 1st round pick and Dalton Risner (RT), Kansas St. listed as 1st round picks (talentwise). Some other OTs who are fairly highly rated are Bobby Evans, Oklahoma and David Edwards of Wisconsin. This is supposed to be the best OT class since 2010.
The Jets are the laughingstock already. Doing absolutely nothing just creates more guffaws. Even if there are some competent coaches on staff no one will know without giving them a tryout. Forcing anyone on a new head coach is a product of your imagination, not mine - this is simply a discovery project, or would you prefer one or two guys there to rise to the top of some other organization? This is a project that would be over by the new year - let the chaos begin! The Jets already have zero chance of succeeding, let's just continue that, right? Why are you talking about next season's preparation time already? This has nothing to do with next season other than to set the tone that "business as usual" is now different. If you want to argue for the status quo you're free to do so but don't create your own argument far beyond what I wrote.
The Jets are not a laughingstock yet. Not that many teams fire their HC during the season. Most wait until the end of the season. How is it a product of my imagination? What good would it do to try to discover if any of the other assistant coaches are any good, unless you plan to retain them? Or are you trying to help other teams find quality assistant coaches? You yourself said it would be a "discovery project, or would you prefer one or two guys there to rise to the top of some other organization?" So, unless you did retain them and force them on the new HC, then you would be singling them out for some other organization to get the benefit from. What you are suggesting is idiotic in the extreme. It reeks of panic and desperation, and is plain and simply nuts. No professional sports team is going to do something that wacky. I'm not arguing for the status quo. I'm arguing for sanity, not the insanity you're proposing. You don't even understand your own argument.
If Bosa is there with the first pick it means the top OT/WR is probably gone so you either pick Bosa or my preferred option trade down some for more amunition. There is a big part of me that absolutely wanted Bowles gone already. I feel in classical fashion he will win a couple of meaningless games down the end, just enough to fuck up the draft and also risk the possibility of retaining him another year, in which case I'll move on and take a different hobby. He is simply clueless.
I have no concerns with how other teams deal with change; beginning to make changes in staff now should be seen as a first step to the future. That change will definitely happen - why wait? Whether or not the Jets are a laughingstock is a matter of opinion, not fact but media reports in the past few months, not just weeks, indicate my opinion has many supporters. To discover a hidden gem in the coaching staff should be no less important than discovering one on the practice, or even active squad and should be treated the same way as far as retention. I advocate neither panic nor desperation but I see no benefit in waiting to begin to build for the future - where is the harm to the team? There is no panic, no desperation in a season that has already been written off as far as record. Your imagination runs wild when you conflate seeing what coaches can do now to "forcing" them on a new head coach. I did not say that, I did not imply that, so don't attempt to tell me I don't understand my own argument when it is clear that you're the one who is going way beyond what I wrote. You want no change now which is the definition of status quo. So be it; our opinions will differ.
To me the inaction by owners is just another slap in the face...like saying go suffer 6 more weeks..we cant even get an interim Coach off the street and then demote him after the real Coach gets here I hope Toilet is roasted by the press every Sunday and 5 days a week till Dec 30th Being so dumb and stubborn like the Johnsons are is a bad combination in life (you only get away with it if your bank account has millions)
This is a franchise which is run by people who need help changing their socks and underwear. You really expect them to know how to make a coaching change?
I’d be okay with Bosa plus Clowney or some variation of that. We’d be intstantly stacked at position. We’d better draft offensive line for the rest of the draft though. Draft 5 of them if that’s what it takes.
When you get an extension after back to back 5-11 seasons, and are on pace to finish with another 5-11 season, I’d say the coaches are performing up to expectations so what changes are necessary?
Well lets not screw it up then. We either grab Jonah at the top or trade down, which should certainly net us a 2nd rounder and have a decent day two of the draft as well. This is why would should pursue a pass rusher in free agency.
Gee what a surprise... as many of us know this HC is clueless so it is no surprise to many here and probably in Jet nation about the current situation. I expect this team to lose the rest of the way and would be shocked if they one even one.
This is how winning teams operate. Oh, wait the Jets are horrible and have been for years. Why expect any changes the suckers, oops I mean paying fans don't care.
I think Macc would go offense because Bowles probably made him take defense every year cause that is where his mind is 1972. I think Macc can adjust on the fly and address the offensive side more or balance out the team like real Gm's are suppose to do.
He's never coached this team. Real coaches make an adjustment and hold people accountable. That has never been done since Bowles has been here. If a player complained they were cut or traded away because he does not have the mentality to be a head coach. Non-confrontational and much too loyal to his friends.
